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Another B+B Tries To Break The Law.

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mikey4444 | 08:08 Thu 20th Mar 2014 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-26658486

Despite the case in Cornwall going against the Bulls, another couple want to break anti-discrimination laws. Why are people like this so terribly interested in what people do it bed ?
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When you are talking about somebody's home (complete with three kids) doubling up as a B+B, it seems to me that they should be able to accept or refuse anybody they want. for whatever reason they want. This is just another example of the gay lobby trying to force absolutely everybody to see things their way.
13:39 Thu 20th Mar 2014
AOG - "andy-hughes

/// So intolerance in the Chritstian faith is pertinent, and takes many forms - Catholics by embracing that faith are intolerant of abortion and birth control - and so on. ///

Why do you seem to criticise the Christian faith so much, yet seem to defend the Islamic faith, if others choose to criticise that particular faith"

My defence or criticism of any faith - or more accurately the practisers thereof - is based on the tone of the thread at the time.

My problem is not with Christianity, which is a concept I do not follow - it is with Christians who bring their intolerances into the real world - as has occured with the incident that started this thread.

I would be equally vociforous of anyone arguing a case for Muslims discriminating on a similar basis - and if such a thread appears, I'll see you there!!
ludwig

/// I certainly wouldn't - not if they shouted it. ///

It might be a crowded bar with loud music playing.
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AOG - It is not rude to point out you're being silly when you're being silly.
sp1814

/// If he was relatively good looking and/or kept himself in shape. ///

Oh so if one is straight, relatively good looking and keeps one's self in shape, a gay bar is not the place to go/

That is a shame for not very good looking, chubby gays, they don't stand a chance of being chatted up in a gay bar, better for them to a straight bar where the clientèle are not so obsessed with outwardly appearances of other males, just as long as they are interesting and enjoy a good chat over a pint of beer.
sp, you seem to have some unresolved conflicts in you mind,
/I said that there are gay bars who control the number of straight couples allowed in. /
That is a difference in attitude beteen gays and hetereosexuals, surely you can see that? It is no different to making blacks sit at the back of the bus because you are discriminating between socio/ethnic groups.
andy-hughes

You typed

"My problem is not with Christianity, which is a concept I do not follow"-

How can this be when in your own words you admitted to attending Mass every Sunday.

Have I missed something or even misread your words?
ummmm

/// AOG - It is not rude to point out you're being silly when you're being silly. ///

Don't be silly then.
Don't mean to answer on Andy's behalf...

His wife is Catholic and he attends church with her.
Quite right ummm - that's exactly it.

I do quite enjoy the rituals of the Mass, and I like a good sing, and I always enjoy the coffee and buscuits afterwards, but as far as belief in any of the faith aspects - I have none whatsoever.
SP, In response to your // To ask gay people to tolerate discrimination is unacceptable...as it would be to tell black people, "So what if the hotel says 'No blacks, no dogs, no Irish'...there's a place a few miles down the road that will accept you".//

…I said "point taken."

…. but on reflection and on a point of principle I'd like to retract that.

People who put signs up declaring ''No blacks, no dogs, no Irish' do it because, for no apparent reason, they dislike blacks, dogs, and the Irish. However, Christians who do not wish to rent rooms to gay people are not simply bigoted - they reject gay people for what is to their mind a very valid reason - because their God tells them that homosexuality is, to quote the bible, an 'abomination', and is therefore a sin against God. In the light of that, should their feelings not be considered and their beliefs tolerated?
AOG - "sp1814

/// If he was relatively good looking and/or kept himself in shape. ///

Oh so if one is straight, relatively good looking and keeps one's self in shape, a gay bar is not the place to go/

That is a shame for not very good looking, chubby gays, they don't stand a chance of being chatted up in a gay bar, better for them to a straight bar where the clientèle are not so obsessed with outwardly appearances of other males, just as long as they are interesting and enjoy a good chat over a pint of beer."

I think you might be playing devil's advocate here.

Of course more physically attractive men will attract more attention than plainer men - that is exactly the same as happens in straight bars.

But since like straight men - and women - the majority of gay men and women are not sprayed with evolution's aftershave, there are more than enough people who are not body facists, and will chat to people on the basis of finding good company rather than arm candy.
/// "So what if the hotel says 'No blacks, no dogs, no Irish'. ///

There are plenty of hotels etc that do not accept dogs.
Without a doubt naomi. Yes, without a doubt. Their feelings and views and beliefs are important.
That Christians feel the need to stick by their religious tenets is laudable (all the usual caveats notwithstanding) but if by doing so they contravene the Law of the land, they should, rightly, have to face the consequences of doing so.

If they are unable to square their beliefs with their business obligations, I would have thought the sensible approach would be to find some other business to undertake.
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Jack, I'm not suggesting it's laudable - simply that it cannot be considered simple bigotry - as in the case of the 'No blacks, dogs, or Irish' scenario. Funny how respect for religion seems to be important - until something like this rears its head. Just an observation.
I know.
And as I said earlier, it will be interesting to see whether they will admit married gay couples whatever the court decides.
andy-hughes

/// His wife is Catholic and he attends church with her. ///

/// I do quite enjoy the rituals of the Mass, and I like a good sing, and I always enjoy the coffee and buscuits afterwards, but as far as belief in any of the faith aspects - I have none whatsoever. ///

Well what can I say andy, be interesting to know your wife's feelings towards homosexuality, birth control, abortion and all the other matters that the Catholic Church is strictly against, does this cause any riffs in your relationship?

Now don't take me wrong andy I do not wish to delve into your relationship between you and your wife, I was just wondering if she had such a diametrically opposite view to you on these subjects.
Naomi - The bigotry on display may be 'religious' in origin....but the manifestation of it is pretty indiscernible from that arising from any other source.

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