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Ukip Policies
What are UKIP's policies aside from the obvious ones we keep hearing about? what are they going to do for the students, disabled and the pensioners? I am worried their popularity is only based on people wanting to get out of europe and not looking at all of the policies that could affect people adversely!
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Naomi...Of course people may do what they want, but I just can't see the point in voting for a party that has no chance whatsoever of winning an election. Voting for UKIP, or the Greens, or the Monster Raving Loony Party must be like wetting yourself, while dark trousers....it might give you a warm, smug feeling but nobody will notice any difference.
Chilli...It is highly unlikely that UKIP will form part of any coalition Government after May 2015. They may affect how many votes are cast for Labour and the Tories, most notably the latter, but that is as far as UKIP's influence will go.
UKIP are a very minor party...I keep repeating this but The Greens have 100% more seats in Parliament than UKIP !
UKIP are a very minor party...I keep repeating this but The Greens have 100% more seats in Parliament than UKIP !
Anyone who doubts the dangers of the UKIP mob in both British and European politics isn't looking at the broader scope. Any vote in the Euro elections helps build British safeguards in Europe because the want to protect the UK primarily.
In the next parliamentary election they could become a major influence, as chilldoubt has said, why would any major political player have given them vocal space and recognition through a debate. Farage has picked up the scent of something in the UK and is exploiting it for the UKIP gain...he's only doing what other politicians in the major parties have been doing for years
In the next parliamentary election they could become a major influence, as chilldoubt has said, why would any major political player have given them vocal space and recognition through a debate. Farage has picked up the scent of something in the UK and is exploiting it for the UKIP gain...he's only doing what other politicians in the major parties have been doing for years
I'm not suggesting they're going to win mikey, but you do them a disservice and ignore them at your peril with your continued 'very minor party' mantra.
Clegg doubtless thought the same, he got a bloody nose for his troubles and it's become obvious to all and sundry that Farage and UKIP have gained momentum in recent months.
That's why they're now running scared with their wishy-washy fudging of the EU issue. Farage is the only one to nail his colours to the mast. Well, bar the (now a minor party) Lib Dems, and look where it's got them in the polls:
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Clegg doubtless thought the same, he got a bloody nose for his troubles and it's become obvious to all and sundry that Farage and UKIP have gained momentum in recent months.
That's why they're now running scared with their wishy-washy fudging of the EU issue. Farage is the only one to nail his colours to the mast. Well, bar the (now a minor party) Lib Dems, and look where it's got them in the polls:
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Neil Hamilton, Disgraced Former MP. who resigned from the Con Party 1994, over the cash for Questions , is Campaigning in Gibraltar for UKIP at the European Elections, Saying that he is the only active member of UKIP
Who has been a member of Government, and has brought a level of experience and Professionalism with him into UKIP?. Surely Dave could make room for him.
Who has been a member of Government, and has brought a level of experience and Professionalism with him into UKIP?. Surely Dave could make room for him.
I have looked at your link chilli and it appears to say that Anthony Well's prediction is that Labour will win an outright majority of 44 seats in Westminster.
There is a 12 months to go, an awfully long time in politics and this 44 seat majority will undoubtedly change, but UKIP are still predicted to win no seats at Westminster. So if they won zero seats in 2010 seats and are predicted to win zero seats in 2015, why are they not a minor party ?
UKIP can make as much noise as it likes, but if they are not represented in the House of Commons, what will Farage have achieved ?
There is a 12 months to go, an awfully long time in politics and this 44 seat majority will undoubtedly change, but UKIP are still predicted to win no seats at Westminster. So if they won zero seats in 2010 seats and are predicted to win zero seats in 2015, why are they not a minor party ?
UKIP can make as much noise as it likes, but if they are not represented in the House of Commons, what will Farage have achieved ?
Minor parties don't get the media attention, platform and coverage Farage has got over the last 12 months mikey, but then you already know that deep down.
Why not wait until after the 22nd of May and seeing how things pan out before making any predictions about next year? After all, even those currently forming part of the government may well disappear without trace!
Why not wait until after the 22nd of May and seeing how things pan out before making any predictions about next year? After all, even those currently forming part of the government may well disappear without trace!
UKiP will win the most MEPs next month. But the Euro vote uses PR.
They are unlikely to get any Westminster seats (or at most 2-3) because our first past the post system means most of UKiPs votes count for nothing. They are not irrelevent because they attract a lot of votes. It may well be the number of voters defecting to UKiP who decide the Next general election result.
A good result next month in the Euros will encourage floating and protest voters to vote UKiP to damage the incumbant in their areas.
They are unlikely to get any Westminster seats (or at most 2-3) because our first past the post system means most of UKiPs votes count for nothing. They are not irrelevent because they attract a lot of votes. It may well be the number of voters defecting to UKiP who decide the Next general election result.
A good result next month in the Euros will encourage floating and protest voters to vote UKiP to damage the incumbant in their areas.
Roy / mikey
In the 2010 General election voting was as follows...
UKiP 919,546 votes
Greens 285,616 votes
UKiP got more than 3 times as many votes as the Greens, but the Greens won a seat. I would not be surprised if UKiP does not have 3 times the number of MPs as the Greens next year (assuming Caroline Lucas is re-elected).
In the 2010 General election voting was as follows...
UKiP 919,546 votes
Greens 285,616 votes
UKiP got more than 3 times as many votes as the Greens, but the Greens won a seat. I would not be surprised if UKiP does not have 3 times the number of MPs as the Greens next year (assuming Caroline Lucas is re-elected).
Mikey, //I just can't see the point in voting for a party that has no chance whatsoever of winning an election.//
The same could have been said for the Liberals at the last election - and look where they are now - not for long I grant you, but they're there. Perhaps the lesson here is 'never say never'.
The same could have been said for the Liberals at the last election - and look where they are now - not for long I grant you, but they're there. Perhaps the lesson here is 'never say never'.
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