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The Aftermath Of Notting Hill Carnival
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Nice to see that the carnival everybody loves went off quite peacefully.
Just three men were stabbed, two police officers injured, 261 arrests, several men injured, one sustaining a serious stab wound and eight others also received knife wounds, six men arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, and a female police officer attacked.
The Metropolitan Police also issued Section 60 and Section 60AA Orders, giving police the power to stop and search across the two-day Carnival late last night in response to the stabbings, but strangely enough they were only put in place from 7pm on Monday until 2am Tuesday, why weren't they in place before, during and after the carnival?
Nice though to see a change from the obligatory black lady wears policeman's helmet photo.
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Nice to see that the carnival everybody loves went off quite peacefully.
Just three men were stabbed, two police officers injured, 261 arrests, several men injured, one sustaining a serious stab wound and eight others also received knife wounds, six men arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, and a female police officer attacked.
The Metropolitan Police also issued Section 60 and Section 60AA Orders, giving police the power to stop and search across the two-day Carnival late last night in response to the stabbings, but strangely enough they were only put in place from 7pm on Monday until 2am Tuesday, why weren't they in place before, during and after the carnival?
Nice though to see a change from the obligatory black lady wears policeman's helmet photo.
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I suppose he's wondering, like many people, why such an event was ever allowed to gain hold and increase its level of disruption in such an unsuitable area. He may also be wondering why one with such levels of arrests for offences involving violence - many of them serious - is still countenanced
14:36 Tue 26th Aug 2014
// suppose he's wondering, like many people, why such an event was ever allowed to gain hold and increase its level of disruption in such an unsuitable area. //
I was steward for a fun run for paralysed little babies in Blackers and got that from the police officer who was dragged away from his desk to monitor the fun-runners. I just sat there with my mouth open. 1985
and then i realised that if there is any activity which drags out public servants ( that would be the police) from their desks and out of their cars they just say - public order problem - ban it
I was steward for a fun run for paralysed little babies in Blackers and got that from the police officer who was dragged away from his desk to monitor the fun-runners. I just sat there with my mouth open. 1985
and then i realised that if there is any activity which drags out public servants ( that would be the police) from their desks and out of their cars they just say - public order problem - ban it
ColinandJess
I don't know how long you have been contributing to the news section, but it is a frequent ploy of some to hark back into history, in an attempt to cover up what is happening today.
Some have even mentioned the evils committed by the Crusaders to try and make apologies for the evils now committed in the name of Islam.
They have also mentioned the barbarism committed by the Christians during the Inquisition again when Islam has been criticised.
I don't know how long you have been contributing to the news section, but it is a frequent ploy of some to hark back into history, in an attempt to cover up what is happening today.
Some have even mentioned the evils committed by the Crusaders to try and make apologies for the evils now committed in the name of Islam.
They have also mentioned the barbarism committed by the Christians during the Inquisition again when Islam has been criticised.
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AOG and others, you are getting confused Section 60 is the existing power to 'stop and search' Section 60AA is completely different . S60AA is only issued if serious disorder is considered imminent , it can only be issued for a limited time and area. It can not be issued 'just in case' .
Also within the last few days the Met has issued new much tighter guidelines for an S60 stop and search. Now an officer must be able to give a specific reason for doing a S60, they can not, as was happening in the past just do one at will , the officers also wear body cameras that record the details of the stop and search. There will be records kept of all S60s to check that particular individuals are not being unfairly treated.
Also within the last few days the Met has issued new much tighter guidelines for an S60 stop and search. Now an officer must be able to give a specific reason for doing a S60, they can not, as was happening in the past just do one at will , the officers also wear body cameras that record the details of the stop and search. There will be records kept of all S60s to check that particular individuals are not being unfairly treated.
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sp1814
/// What is it that could be preventing you from thinking of this as a British tradition? ///
Well let's put it this way, if Morris Dancing was brought to the Caribbean, no matter how long it had taken place, would you call it a West Indian tradition?
And how do you think the great British tradition of 'Bowling for a Pig' competition would go down in Pakistan?
/// What is it that could be preventing you from thinking of this as a British tradition? ///
Well let's put it this way, if Morris Dancing was brought to the Caribbean, no matter how long it had taken place, would you call it a West Indian tradition?
And how do you think the great British tradition of 'Bowling for a Pig' competition would go down in Pakistan?
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Colinandjess
I would be astounded if AOG is basing his objection on race.
I will leave him to defend himself on that charge, but I genuinely assumed that this thread had nothing to do with race, and more to do with his unwavering interest in public safety.
His comparison to Morris dancers in the West Indies has nothing to do with race, surely.
I would be astounded if AOG is basing his objection on race.
I will leave him to defend himself on that charge, but I genuinely assumed that this thread had nothing to do with race, and more to do with his unwavering interest in public safety.
His comparison to Morris dancers in the West Indies has nothing to do with race, surely.
Just thinking actually...
Barbecues on a bank holiday.
That sounds very much like a British tradition, but again, I can't recall seeing any film of that from the 50s. It just didn't happen.
Weren't barbecues brought over from the US?
Confusingly, people very much think of it as being a British tradition.
AOG - could it not be argued that different people see different things as 'British', and that we should all accept that others may have ideas that might not dovetail with our own?
Do you think that's fair?
Barbecues on a bank holiday.
That sounds very much like a British tradition, but again, I can't recall seeing any film of that from the 50s. It just didn't happen.
Weren't barbecues brought over from the US?
Confusingly, people very much think of it as being a British tradition.
AOG - could it not be argued that different people see different things as 'British', and that we should all accept that others may have ideas that might not dovetail with our own?
Do you think that's fair?
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