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Was This Death Caused Deliberately Or Was It Just An Unfortunate Accident Caused In The Process Of An Arrest?

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anotheoldgit | 12:27 Thu 04th Dec 2014 | News
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Yet another black man killed by a white police officer, and who is later cleared by a Grand Jury, which has again triggered off riots.

The unfortunate victim was a large powerful man, how else could the police officer manage to wrestle him to the ground and thus prevent him from going through the plate glass window of the store?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/eric-garner-chokehold-case-police-officer-daniel-pantaleo-not-charged-9901893.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/nyregion/grand-jury-said-to-bring-no-charges-in-staten-island-chokehold-death-of-eric-garner.html
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// The verdict comes despite the city's medical examiner ruling that [i] the death was homicide and the New York Police Department’s ban on chokeholds, as they are dangerous. [i] //



Couldnt they have just tazered him?
I get the concept that someone resisting arrest may need to be restrained forcefully. I don't get how it's remotely acceptable for that restraint to end in the man's death. Again, it's a shocking procedural concept. The police are there to help bring people to justice, not to summarily kill people.

When it came to the Ferguson case I had some sympathy for the Grand Jury's decision, because the evidence was sketchy at best. Here it seems clear-cut that there ought to be charges at least of manslaughter to answer. And this was only about whether or not charges should be brought, too -- there would still have remained the possibility that the police officer in question would be cleared at trial.

There is something fundamentally wrong about the way all such cases seem to be treated by Grand Juries -- and, so, by US citizens -- that essentially means that the police are getting away, time and again, with what should amount to murder. Killing petty criminals is not part of the job description.
Three black people killed, one of them only a young child, by white Policemen and yet nobody is guilty of anything ?

It seems that the old adage about stopping digging when you find yourself at the bottom of a deep hole has yet to make itself known to American Police Forces. A own goal if ever I saw one.
My teenage son made a comment on this: 'Why do they blame the Police? The man was not just walking down the road minding his business was he?'

The guy was selling illegal cigarettes, put up a fight when asked to stop -and? I think if this guy had been Caucasian it would not have made the news.
But since when was selling illegal cigarettes a capital offence? It's unacceptable that for such a minor offence the man's life was ended. Deliberately or not, it's just unacceptable.

It's about a broken attitude to policing as much as anything else.
This is becoming all too commonplace now , isn't it ( or perhaps it has been going on all along , but just not being reported ) .

Soon it will be like a RTA and just accepted as what happens

Very sad
Mikey oh come on I thought better of you - the 'child' killed was pointing a gun at various people in a park, a gun he had changed (took off the orange cap) to make it look more like a gun. I'm not condoning the shooting one bit but to just say 'black kid shot by white cop' is simplifying the matter for your own argument.
Jim the guy was not executed For Funks Sake he was manhandled to the ground because he kicked off (go watch the video). They got him in a head lock and unfortunately got a bit carried away, or the guy had underlying medical issues, I guess it will all come out at the Inquest.
Really Retrochic ? So if it had been a white man that had been killed by a black Policemen, we wouldn't be talking about it ?

This man was killed. Your argument sounds like a carte blanche for Policemen to do whatever they like. Is it any wonder that there have been riots on the streets of America recently ?
Were you there then Mickey? Retro only seems to be looking for facts before making judgement which seems pretty reasonable to me.
The problem with this method of suffocating people in order to make them stop struggling, is that when you're being suffocated you do tend to struggle.

It's happened over here too. I don't know if they still do it, but there's a tactic they employ where about 10 cops sit on someone until they stop moving - often because they've just died.
Retrochic, the police officer involved in the shooting of Tamir Rice was deemed unfit to be an officer and unfit to handle a gun according to his former bosses at a different police force.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/chi-cleveland-police-shooting-tamir-rice-20141203-story.html
No Mikey, my opinion (not argument) is that, in this case, it was more likely a tragic turn of events. The victim was twice the size of the arresting officers and put up a fight. I'm sure if he had put his hands up and did as he was told he would be alive today. It is the USA he was lucky he wasn't shot.
If the victim and perpetrators had been of the same race (color) I don't think this would have been as newsworthy.
Daffy we are not discussing that case. My opinions are based on this Post, this Incident. There is not one opinion fits all in these matters.
//..They got him in a head lock and unfortunately got a bit carried away,..//

' got a bit carried away ' ? - no ***
You were the one who was defending the officer in the Tamir Rice shooting, I was just pointing you towards some relevant facts in that case.
Retro...." a bit carried way ? " Is that the euphemism for killing nowadays ?

"Oh Sorry your Honour......I got a bit carried way "

Extraordinary !

Scores so far...

Black people ........0
White policemen....3

Trust in the Police by black people....zero.
no '$h1t'
To hear 'Eric Garner' say repeatedly that he could not breath has made my blood run cold, yet they simply applied more pressure.

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