Unite Against Fascism

[tonyav]

Tut Tut, Unite against fascism knuckle draggers.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/03/09/most-of-29-arrests-at-dudley-march-opposed-edl/

[Svejk]

andy-hughes /// Svejk - // Left-wing scum. //

As opposed to Right-wing scum? ///

Er, hello. That's what I said.

[anotheoldgit]

Canary42

////Doesn't seem to be a cheep out of these UAF types about the fascist misanthropes of ISIS or Boko Haram////

/// Possibly because, unlike EDL, they don't go on marches in the UK. ///

Did the UAF attend this little gathering?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/08/257807FD00000578-2944946-A_petition_signed_by_100_000_British_Muslims_was_handed_to_No_10-a-65_1423424837552.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/08/257650BC00000578-2944946-image-a-77_1423426006076.jpg

It would seem from this that the UAF are a load of hypocrites, who want to ban their opponents marches, but shout about 'THEIR' human right to march.

*** Now, UAF has issued what must rank as one of the silliest political statements of the year so far. “We the undersigned welcome the banning of the racist English Defence League’s march through Tower Hamlets,” it says. “But we are appalled to discover that the Metropolitan Police are applying for a blanket ban on ALL marches across five London boroughs… It is our human right to peacefully march in Tower Hamlets.” Wait – how come UAF has a “human right” to march, but the EDL does not? Are EDL members not human? Moreover, it really is spectacularly daft to talk about the importance of the right to march in the same breath as you welcome a government decision to ban a march. What UAF is effectively saying is: “We should have the freedom to march, but they shouldn’t.” ***

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100102396/in-finding-itself-banned-unite-against-fascism-has-fallen-victim-to-its-own-brand-of-boneheaded-illiberalism/

[anotheoldgit]

Orderlimit

/// These nasty nazi fascist UAF wasters usually start the trouble so no surprise about the arrest other than surprised to see the media actually say it. ///

Yes but did you notice that they covered themselves by posting the obligatory photo of characteristic EDL supporter?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //...Are EDL members not human?//

The jury is still out on that one!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// I raise a glass to UAF.

I'm right behind them in their intentions (but not necessarily their methods).

Good lads and lasses. ///

Oh so you are in favour of the rise of Islam in this country then?

That seems rather strange, yourself supporting a religion that condemns homosexuals to death throughout the world.

Be very careful what you wish for sp.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// However, I would take a bet that none of the UAF team have got 'UAF' and a bar code tattoed on their heads like our 'steward' friend in the picture. ///

There what did I tell you, it works every time?

[retrocop]

A H
And who are YOU to judge?

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //A H
And who are YOU to judge? //

Who's judging? I merely made an observation.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // sp1814

/// I raise a glass to UAF.

I'm right behind them in their intentions (but not necessarily their methods).

Good lads and lasses. ///

Oh so you are in favour of the rise of Islam in this country then? //

How does support of the UAF translate into a support of the rise of Islam in this country?

I would be interested to hear how you link those two concepts together.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //andy-hughes

/// However, I would take a bet that none of the UAF team have got 'UAF' and a bar code tattoed on their heads like our 'steward' friend in the picture. ///

There what did I tell you, it works every time? //

Sorry, you've lost me - what works every time?

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

AOG - //...Are EDL members not human?//

/// The jury is still out on that one! ///

That is a typical left-wing approach, questioning whether a person is human or not, simply because they hold a different opinion.

That is why I can never understand why the Nazis were classed 'Far Right-Wing', didn't they also classed some fellow humans as 'non humans' or a 'sub species'

But then NAZI does mean National Socialism.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //andy-hughes

AOG - //...Are EDL members not human?//

/// The jury is still out on that one! ///

That is a typical left-wing approach, questioning whether a person is human or not, simply because they hold a different opinion. //

Since you are often put out when people do not recognise humour in your posts, I would have thought you were able to recognise humour in someone else's? perhaps not.

My comment was a light-hearted tease, not a socialist manifesto!

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// How does support of the UAF translate into a support of the rise of Islam in this country? ///

/// I would be interested to hear how you link those two concepts together. ///

I would have thought that would be obvious to most, but apparently in your case Andy it is not, so please allow me to enlighten you.

The EDL stand for the English Defence League, and they were formed for the purpose of opposing the increasing rise of Islam in this country, so it figures that if one is in favour of preventing them from voicing their concerns, then one must be in favour of the rise of Islam in this country.

If that means marching so as to get their concerns aired then so be it, since they are not on their own in protesting for various other issues, but for some strange reason it is only the EDL that gets condemned for doing so.

But then on second thoughts, no they are not on their own, even more acceptable groups such as UKIP are now so targeted.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Sorry, you've lost me - what works every time? ///

i refer you to my 10.32 post.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // andy-hughes

/// How does support of the UAF translate into a support of the rise of Islam in this country? ///

/// I would be interested to hear how you link those two concepts together. ///

I would have thought that would be obvious to most, but apparently in your case Andy it is not, so please allow me to enlighten you. //

No need to be patronising. If you fail to make your position clear, the responsibility is yours, so to infer that lack of understanding on my part is the result of some inferred stupidity is uncalled for.

// The EDL stand for the English Defence League, and they were formed for the purpose of opposing the increasing rise of Islam in this country, so it figures that if one is in favour of preventing them from voicing their concerns, then one must be in favour of the rise of Islam in this country.//

That is not logical in the slightest. To assume that dislike or one infers support of the other has no basis in fact, or opinion.

I for one deeply dislike and distrust the EDL, but I am in no way in favour of any Muslim extremism, so that dismisses your rather broad-brushed argument immediately.

I am very much in favour of free speech, but not of shouting 'Fire!' in a crowded theatre, as the oft-used explanation has it.

To assume that opposition to one concept infers automatic tacit support of another is ludicrous.

Because you are not in favour of Islamic extremism, does that make you a fundamentalist Christian, keen to exterminate all other faiths by any means necessary? I would guess not - although your logic would certainly infer that.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Since you are often put out when people do not recognise humour in your posts, ///

And where have I ever said that I was put out because someone did not recognise my humour?

If I wish anything to be taken in humour then I generally add that well known two dots, one zero and a bracket i.e. :0), may I suggest that you do the same?

/// My comment was a light-hearted tease, not a socialist manifesto! ///

Ah yes, always a good cop-out, when one has been justly criticised for making such offensive statements, goes also with "only a bit of sarcasm",
"just tongue in the cheek" etc.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

I wasn't being patronising, I was just answering your lack of understanding to something I put, which apparently everyone else understood what I meant except you.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //I wasn't being patronising, I was just answering your lack of understanding to something I put, which apparently everyone else understood what I meant except you. //

Yes - you were.

[ludwig]

Someone needs to form the UAUAF (Unite against unite against fascism) to oppose these thugs.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - I notice you are keen to argue the manner of your point, rather than answer my response to the point itself.