Ban Smoking In Pub Gardens ?

[youngmafbog]

Seems like a reasonable thing to me. Smokers dont care about who they upset so something needs to be done if they wont act reasonably.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3195854/Call-smoking-ban-OUTSIDE-pubs.html

[ukbod2015]

Its my understanding that part of the regulations were not smoking within 3.5 metres of any doorway / exit - I know many ignore this but for some smaller pub gardens that pretty much excludes smoking altogether.

[Jackdaw33]

There was time, in my lifetime, when it was deeply frowned upon for a woman to smoke out of doors. Now she has no choice, unless in her own or someone else's home.

[Old_Geezer]

Drunken yobs ? Yes and from the pub too.

Unruly children ? Well a pub should be able to decide if it is for adults or families but unruly, yes ask the family to control their kids or go elsewhere.

I feel uncomfortable imposing the restriction as it affects personal freedom, but in fairness it would be good for society if this practice made folk pariahs for future generations. Maybe it is a case of the ends justifying the means.

For sure, at present, the garden is a not a particularly pleasant place to go in the warmer weather, as it seems to be near exclusively set up for smokers. Ash trays (often used) on every table, many smoking nearby where you may wish to go. And anyway, outside office building doors it is already banned, is this such a difference ?

Be interesting to see if it gets taken up.

[ummmm]

NJ...I was brought up in a pub so I can't agree with you. Pub life taught me many valuable lessons.

[chrissa1]

It beats me how all you holier than thou non-smokers ever managed to get through the last six decades, or so.

[anotheoldgit]

I wonder how many of those demanding fresh air in pub gardens, then get into their cars and pollute the very air we breath?

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[ToraToraTora]

yes absolutely, no form of oppression is too much for these smelly urchins. There can't even put their residue in the bin. Has anyone seen a smoking area that is not knee deep in fag buts and assorted ***? pig stys the lot. Glad to have got them outside but now the outside is off limits to normal people, move them 10 metres from any door.

[maggiebee]

As an ex smoker my first instinct would be yes, ban smoking in pub gardens. However, folk had to put up with my smoke for 4 decades so who am I to lay down the rules? We perhaps need to lighten up a little.

[Old_Geezer]

Why is it that whenever the subject of smoking comes up someone has to try to tie in the totally unrelated and incomparable subject of transport exhaust fumes ? One might have thought that the difference between a voluntary pastime that affects others adversely, and the inevitable result of trying to get from A to B, might be evident to all by now.

[ummmm]

What's this knee deep in fag butts nonsense?

[Svejk]

The new puritans promised to fill the pubs with non-smokers before the smoking ban came into force. Result- 30 pubs a week are shutting. This would be the final nail in the coffin for the pub trade. Then you moaning whingers can enjoy a smoke-free 'half of bitter' (cos that's the kind of people you usually are) if you can find an open pub. Good luck with that.
Perhaps if you want to eat you should do it in the confines of your own house or go to those places where people are supposed to eat, restaurants & cafes. There's nothing I hate more when I'm enjoying a few pints than the stink of people's revolting meals and catching a glimpse of them chewing cud like cows in the field. Revolting masticators, uurrgh.

[Gromit]

One unfortunate consequence of banning smoking indoors, is that beer gardens, which used to be an oasis on an hot summer day, are now pretty horibble places for non smokers to hang out.

But I don't think it would be pissible to ban out doors. The way they got it inside pubs was the health of its employees. That arguement doesn't really work outside.

[Zacs-Master]

'I wonder how many of those demanding fresh air in pub gardens, then get into their cars and pollute the very air we breath?'

Find my anyone who doesn't use a car OR public transport.

[Gromit]

Svejk,

Pubs were closing in large numbers before the smoking ban. I do not believe ANY pubs have closed because of it.

[Zacs-Master]

How rude!

[andy-hughes]

Svejk - //The new puritans promised to fill the pubs with non-smokers before the smoking ban came into force. Result- 30 pubs a week are shutting. This would be the final nail in the coffin for the pub trade. Then you moaning whingers can enjoy a smoke-free 'half of bitter' (cos that's the kind of people you usually are) if you can find an open pub. Good luck with that. //

I think that the smoking ban has hastened the demise of the traditional pub, but I think that demise was already well under way.

The drinking habits of the British public have changed considerably over the last twenty years.

The onset of far more leisure activities for younger people, coupled with the vastly reduced prices of alcohol in supermarkets, means that far more people drink at home, or at home before going out, which has caused irreparable damage to the culture and landscape of British pubs.

An argument like this will always polarise on whether the poster is a smoker or not - each side using the same arguments as every other time.

I am an admitted fascist where alcohol and tobacco are concerned, both would be banned off the planet tomorrow if I had my way.

[Svejk]

I know in my town all the same pubs had been open for years & years. Till the smoking ban. Now I'd estimate 75% of them have shut. We're very working class here which might have some bearing on this type of thing.