Lord Help Us. He's Off Again.

[Svejk]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/25/lenny-henry-ring-fenced-funding-diversity-tv

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// Peter Pedant - " ...give em a K
and they start taking themselves seriously ?"

Who is 'them'? ///

That's an easy one, those who receive a K.

[sp1814]

Good old Lenny.

Nothing wrong with someone daring to speak their mind on race issues.

I'm sure you back him all the way AOG...because like you - he dares to say what others won't, eh?

[anotheoldgit]

As bazwillrun has already said, "make the most of it whilst you can"

There may come a time (but not in my lifetime) as Towns and Cities get full up, and in the constant quest for diversity, smaller villages and Hamlets will be forced to take in an equal amount of ethnic minorities.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "andy-hughes

/// Peter Pedant - " ...give em a K
and they start taking themselves seriously ?"

Who is 'them'? ///

That's an easy one, those who receive a K."

Nice try but .... I don't think so.

There has to be a 'them' to give the K to - and my question, which remains unanswered is - who are 'they'?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Nothing wrong with someone daring to speak their mind on race issues. ///

/// I'm sure you back him all the way AOG...because like you - he dares to say what others won't, eh? ///

Not quite the same, because when I do I am called a racist, a little Englander, a Fascist or a Xenophobic.

What shall we call Lenny?

Oh I forgot, we can't can we?

[agchristie]

// What shall we call Lenny?//

A Lenworth?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "What shall we call Lenny?

Oh I forgot, we can't can we?"

Of course we can - as long as what we call him is not related to his ethnicity - it's quite simple to avoid being called a racist really - just don't make racist observations.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

If you find a need to be so pedantic, let me join you?

Peter Pedant did not use the word "Them".

/// and my question, which remains unanswered is - who are 'they'? ///

That was not your question, your question was "Who is 'them'"?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - join the Grammar Police if you want - it doesn't invalidate my question, which still remains without an answer.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// it's quite simple to avoid being called a racist really - just don't make racist observations. ///

Blimey things are worse than I thought, or are you just practising until such times as Jeremy Corbyn gains power?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "/// it's quite simple to avoid being called a racist really - just don't make racist observations. ///

Blimey things are worse than I thought, or are you just practising until such times as Jeremy Corbyn gains power?"

I don't understand why the potential status of Mr Corbyn - or anyone else- has anything to do with behaving like a decent human being.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// AOG - join the Grammar Police if you want - it doesn't invalidate my question, which still remains without an answer. ///

Not being a member of the Grammar Police, grammar just doesn't come into it, I was just correcting what you actually said.

Must get the question right to what you first put and not the one that you later amended.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "Must get the question right to what you first put and not the one that you later amended. "

The sense of the question is obvious - it is not altered by the semantics of grammatical construction.

I am unsure why you are hanging on this discourse, when what I am really waiting for is a response from Mr Pedant.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

I admit that I did misread what you actually put, I assumed wrongly that you had put 'Racial' observations.

But that apart, even if you put 'Racist' observations, those can be in the mind of the reader, hence my referral to the overused labels some wish to attach to anyone who dares to address certain race issues.

Take immigration for example, wasn't the race card played time and time again against anyone who showed concerns regarding mass immigration to these shores.

Only later did the politicians of all parties admit that it wasn't racist to discuss such matters.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

I simply gave a simple answer to a simple question.

It was you who made it into what is now a complicated question, one of which I presume no one else on Answerbank, knows what you are going on about.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "I simply gave a simple answer to a simple question.

It was you who made it into what is now a complicated question, one of which I presume no one else on Answerbank, knows what you are going on about."

Since it was a question to Peter Pedant, maybe everyone else is doing him - and me - the courtesy of waiting for him to answer it?"

[sp1814]

AOG

But I'm sure in principle you agree that Lenny should be allowed to speak his king on race issues.

I mean, as far as I can tell, this is the second or third major statement he has made on the subject in the past decade.

You beat him in a single morning.

This morning.

So...do you agree that Lenny should indeed be able to speak his mind, or do you agree that both of you should hold your tongue for fear of abuse from those who don't agree with you?

If you want to speak freely on matters of race, then does that extend to those who you may disagree with?

[sp1814]

For 'king' read 'mind'.

[sp1814]

AOG

"Not quite the same, because when I do I am called a racist, a little Englander, a Fascist or a Xenophobic."


And I'm sure none of these are true...in the same way that people who support a left wing ideology aren't necessarily traitors.

A word which you have sometimes alighted upon with a little too much enthusiasm.

[andy-hughes]

sp1814 - "... in the same way that people who support a left wing ideology aren't necessarily traitors."

Nor those who leave for a foreign country, and then wish to return.