Should The UK Go To War With ISIS In Syria?

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Should the UK go to/extend the war with ISIS in Syria, and to what extent?

• No, withdraw from air-strikes and other military intervention in Syria. - 29 votes
• 32%
• Yes, but no UK troops on the ground - 28 votes
• 31%
• Yes, with UK boots on the ground - 21 votes
• 23%
• No, but continue air-strikes - 13 votes
• 14%

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[Colmc54]

If bombing IS makes sense in one place then calling for the bombing of them in another is not 'going to war' or other such hyperbole.
The real enemy of the nay-sayers is the PM and his party who they hate more than IS, Assad,AQ and all put together.
They should be less obvious and even approach some modicum of moral consistency by calling for an end to the RAF's bombing of anyone anywhere ever again.

[ichkeria]

There's a lot of sense in that colm : I am at a loss to understand why so many people are making such a big issue out of Syria simply on the grounds of 'going to war' We 'went to war' some time ago, so protest about that or explain why the bombing in Iraq is different. Yes, we were 'invited' to bomb Iraq, but that is no excuse if one is worried about bombing per se

[Gromit]

before we bomb, I would like to know what the UK hopes to achieve by doing so. What is our objective and how does bombing get us to that position.

Because I cannot see that itwill achieve anything positive. It will not defeat ISIS. So it will not make us safer. It may in fact make us less safe.

The UK can never get what it wants from joining this war, because there are too many other players, International and local. Cameron wants to crash a party, but the party is terrible.

[Svejk]

Whether you like it or not, Assad is the leader of Syria and we have no right to maraud over his territory bombing 'at random'.
And now that Russia and China are backing him, the old 'might is right' maxim seems to be on his side.

[Gromit]

Ok, we bomb ISIS and they disappear. Will we then withdraw from this conflict? Will we then leave Assad to to win his civil war?

We are being conned into joining a war against Russia (and China) and it won't end well for the UK.

[keyplus90]

"Anyone of you might be next", that is what he said in this speech. He was next and now Assad seems to be next only if Russians are not behind him.

[Svejk]

Cameron is a conceited fool. He repeatedly refuses to apologize for his ridiculous slander that 'Anyone that doesn't vote with/for him is a friend of terrorism'.

[ichkeria]

If thought we were going to be 'bombing at random' I wouldn't support it, and Assad doesn't control large parts of his country. Added to which, allegedly IS is also his enemy
Like many I don't accept the '70,000 ground forces ready to fight' nonsense but it's not, for me, an issue

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

That's the one Jim, how did you manage it, the usual "copy image location" wasn't available?

[anotheoldgit]

Why should our young men lay down their lives in an attempt to make Syria a safe place to live in for all those young cowards who are at present seeking a cushy life in Europe?

[Kromovaracun]

Why exactly is this being debated? Undoubtedly because of the attacks in Paris. What new information did that give us? Well, not much. It taught us that IS are capable of launching a terrorist attack in Europe. Which we knew already.

Will airstrikes "contain" IS? It's hard to see how. They're certainly not doing so in Iraq. It's hard to see how airstrikes will do anything other than spill blood and gold.

I know this is severely unpopular because it's not in line with everybody's feelings at the moment.... but in my opinion the best we can do is nothing. The world is going to be a more dangerous place for a while and our resources will be better spent adapting to it rather than being wasted on the fantasy that we can solve the root-and-stem problem. That adaption involves investing in the security services, and using diplomacy (god forbid) to strengthen the regional groups actually doing real harm to IS - particularly the Kurds.

[naomi24]

Svejk, //Cameron is a conceited fool. He repeatedly refuses to apologize for his ridiculous slander that 'Anyone that doesn't vote with/for him is a friend of terrorism'.//

He didn't say that. See here:

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1459977.html

… at 14.00 today.

[jno]

Kromovaracun, I've always supposed Isis could launch attacks in Europe (anyone with access to a gun can), but have they actually done so before? As far as I can tell, most of their emphasis so far has been on taking over land which they can define as a caliphate, unlike al-Qaeda, who can spring up and form cells anywhere.

[ChillDoubt]

Not sure about the OP title as we already are at war with ISIS by their own decree.

[Svejk]

Naomi, seems a lot of MPs think he did say it. (have you been watching the debate?)
If that wasn't his meaning, why not say so? He's been given ample opportunity.

[naomi24]

Svejk, no I haven't been watching the debate but it seems he is being asked to apologise for something he didn't say and I don't blame him for refusing to enter into discussion about it. He has the sense to know that people will spin at any opportunity and he's rightly ignoring them.

[mikey4444]

I have just come in from work...has this vox pop changed since I left home this morning ?

[ChillDoubt]

Dunno Mikey, but many in the upper echelons of the Labour Part are making a superb case for air strikes, Margaret Beckett being the stand-out. Corbyn isn't even supported by his Shadow Cabinet, let alone the Party mainstays.
His tenure thus far has been farcical.

[jim360]

AOG: // That's the one Jim, how did you manage it, the usual "copy image location" wasn't available?//

I managed to find the source article, and then right-clicked on the image for "copy image url". Nothing too special, I think.

[mikey4444]

Chilli...its a free vote, something dave has not thought fit to give his own supporters.

I have said this next bit a few times over the last few days....the Tories need Labour support to get this through tonight, and its due to the meagre majority that they obtained in May.