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Should The UK Go To War With ISIS In Syria?
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Should the UK go to/extend the war with ISIS in Syria, and to what extent?
- No, withdraw from air-strikes and other military intervention in Syria. - 29 votes
- 32%
- Yes, but no UK troops on the ground - 28 votes
- 31%
- Yes, with UK boots on the ground - 21 votes
- 23%
- No, but continue air-strikes - 13 votes
- 14%
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We can't defeat them - we can only contain them.
We can't defeat them - we can only contain them.
Bombing will likely find some innocents also maimed or killed; but no major apology should be necessary as not bombing is likely to cause more maiming, deaths, and abuse from the control freak power groups who are already expanding their influence.
We are looking to the lesser of a number of evils here, and not demanding a perfect solution.
Meanwhile we either stand by the countries who are trying to fix the situation and end the troubles, or we are insignificant worriers of the personal consequences and cower in our own home country trying to build defences for when the bad guys get powerful enough to look further than their present local area: and hope that someone else ensures that doesn't happen.
We are looking to the lesser of a number of evils here, and not demanding a perfect solution.
Meanwhile we either stand by the countries who are trying to fix the situation and end the troubles, or we are insignificant worriers of the personal consequences and cower in our own home country trying to build defences for when the bad guys get powerful enough to look further than their present local area: and hope that someone else ensures that doesn't happen.
That is not a true reflection of the situation. Bombing is not indiscriminate, it is targeted to cut resource lines and destroy military facilities, communications, camps, and suchlike. The idea is to cripple the enemy's ability to operate. But this has to be backed up after with troops forcing the bad guys back and out of the area. Bombing alone is not enough, it is the first stage, and should have been more efficient and on to the next stage by now.
Maybe that's the problem with leaving it to others, and they in an uncoordinated manner too.
Maybe that's the problem with leaving it to others, and they in an uncoordinated manner too.
//What will your reaction be when these murderous heathens have captured a group of our young servicemen, and take the opportunity to make yet another propaganda video, by lining up those troops and beheading them?//
In such a dreadful eventuality my reaction would be the same as to the previous atrocities, and yours too no doubt. All the more reason to but a stop to these barbarians.
In such a dreadful eventuality my reaction would be the same as to the previous atrocities, and yours too no doubt. All the more reason to but a stop to these barbarians.
Was this the cartoon you meant, AOG?
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If the vote in the Commons is for extended air strikes to Syria, I feel it's almost inevitable that there will be some level of mission creep. There almost has to be -- as others have opined, it's not going to be enough to rely on airstrikes if we want to do anything other than contain ISIS on the ground. What we've seen in Iraw is that airstrikes are only effective if coordinated with a larger-scale military action involving conventional army forces.
Preferably such a force should be made of locals wherever possible. In the long run, though, the way to defeat ISIS -- and, far more importantly, to solve the problems that led to their rise in the first place -- will require a sustained global effort, focusing not just on Syria and the Middle East but in places such as Libya, too, where ISIS-related forces are on the rise.
A vote for Syrian airstrikes, anyway, ought to be made only in full expectation of where it will have to lead. More action, more involvement. And, sadly, more bloodshed. This, anyway, is the vote I went for.
Preferably such a force should be made of locals wherever possible. In the long run, though, the way to defeat ISIS -- and, far more importantly, to solve the problems that led to their rise in the first place -- will require a sustained global effort, focusing not just on Syria and the Middle East but in places such as Libya, too, where ISIS-related forces are on the rise.
A vote for Syrian airstrikes, anyway, ought to be made only in full expectation of where it will have to lead. More action, more involvement. And, sadly, more bloodshed. This, anyway, is the vote I went for.