Is Anyone Else Starting To Like Donald Trump?

[ToraToraTora]

I mean anyone who get's the left/anti British spitting out their organic peace muesli must be doing something right!

[naomi24]

//Trump's advocacy of a blanket exclusion of all Muslims//

In fairness he did say “until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

[youngmafbog]

More name calling then jomifl?

What's your answer to the problem we have then?

[ichkeria]

I must say I deplore the lazy (to put it kindly) way people assume that just because person A criticises person B for overreacting to a situation created by the generally-accepted-to-be-beyond-the-pale person C, that therefore person A is an apologist for person C.
It reduces any meaningful debate to a slanging match.
Donald Trump has a record of lying, distorting and giving what look suspiciously like knee jerk reactions to given problems, be it unemployment in the US, ISIS, the military record or the character of his co-Republicans.
Naturally he strikes a chord: it would be hard not for anyone with that large a hammer not to do so, but you simply can't do politics like that. Unless, as someone suggested, this all turns out to have been some sort of sick joke, and he will pull off his plastic mask, yelling "surprise!" just before the Republican convention, then I trust (and certainly hope) that this law of politics will do for him, if not at convention time then certainly at the Presidential election.

[Old_Geezer]

Have found someone you can relate to, T³ ?

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

/// although if any of them can explain how treating around 1.5 billion people as if they were all potential terrorists is in any way rational ///

Were we once also wrong to treat the whole of the German people as potential Nazis?

[andy-hughes]

If I turned up at a Reception Class with a barrel full of chocolate biscuits and offered the children an opportunity to eat as many as they wanted, I would be 'striking a chord' - but that doesn't make it a valid or sensible course of action.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //In fairness he did say “until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on". //

As I pointed out in my original post, anyone with the simplest grasp of the facts knows 'what is going on' - it's finding a solution that is proving tricky, and Mr Trump shouting nonsense is really not helpful.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// although if any of them can explain how treating around 1.5 billion people as if they were all potential terrorists is in any way rational ///

Were we once also wrong to treat the whole of the German people as potential Nazis? //

You usually bring up a comparison with the Nazis sooner or later in a debate of this type, and it is usually not analogous.

Consistency is always an admirable characteristic.

[jomifl]

youngmaf, I don't think so but I can think of a few. Has it occurred to you that Trump is just a tad intellectually challenged. I've seen a few interviews with him and he comes across as a blustering ignorant bully. Still it takes all sorts.

[youngmafbog]

Why not Andy, if it grabs their attention so you can get an important message across then it would be an excellent action. In fact I remember just that being done during my childhood.

Or is it not PC to give out biscuits now?

[mrs_overall]

I have never been able to look at Trump with a straight face since my late nan first saw him on TV many years ago and remarked
"Blimey he's got a face like a well smacked Yabbie"

[youngmafbog]

That's better jomifl. Name calling just reduces any argument you have.

It's on record - on this site that I dont particularly like this man. However I still maintain he has some valid points. It's just the way he puts them over and the extremes he is using to make those points.

But if it highlights the underlying problem Politicians wont address due to Political Correctness and the chattering classes so that something gets done (albeit far more moderate then Trump proposes) then I'm all for him.

[mrs_overall]

Yabbie???????
That should have read as a word starting with A that rhymes with how posh people pronounce grass

[mrs_overall]

....and, how can he expect to be taken seriously with that comb over?

[jim360]

If you mean "treating Germans *in Germany* as potential Nazis", I wouldn't care to comment on that one because I don't really know. I'm uncomfortable with the deliberate bombing campaigns targeted at civilians, I would hope that anyone would be, although if it helped the war effort in the long term it may have been the lesser evil and so worth it. I've yet to make up my mind one way or the other.

In terms of the internment of German, Italian and Japanese immigrants during the Second World War, yes I do think it was wrong. An entire group of people treated as criminals and as threats to society because of where they were born. It's shameful that people thought it was justified. Essentially it amounted to legalised racism.

[sp1814]

TTT

Actually - a lot of us are laughing at him.

Also - a lot of Americans on the political right are embarrassed by him...which only makes us laugh harder.

[youngmafbog]

// Essentially it amounted to legalised racism. //

the race card

Hahahahahahahaha

[jim360]

It was, though, however you may laugh. If you were Japanese in (most of) the US in the Second World War you were treated as a common criminal. While you might expect that from the general public, who at the time were at war with Japan (obviously), that it became a legally-endorsed position is, indeed, an example of legalised racism. This is a thing (it certainly was in the 40s).

[youngmafbog]

//a lot of Americans on the political right are embarrassed by him//

by him or by his views though?

He is unelectable, that's probably why they are 'embarrassed'.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - //Why not Andy, if it grabs their attention so you can get an important message across then it would be an excellent action. In fact I remember just that being done during my childhood. //

Your argument is beginning to resemble Mr Trump's - it looks fine, until you analyse it even slightly, at which point it melts like a snowman in a heat wave.