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Shouldn't This Peaceful Silent March Be Allowed To Take Place Without Violent Opposition?
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Svejk
Tell you one thing that came to the fore in the link you provided. I am referring to the 2006 graph with regard to terrorist activity in Europe.
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So there were the left wingers here gleefully expecting Robinson and pergida to disgrace themselves on Saturday.
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Could this be a start to a trend ?
Tell you one thing that came to the fore in the link you provided. I am referring to the 2006 graph with regard to terrorist activity in Europe.
Left wing total 55 Right Wing total 1
So there were the left wingers here gleefully expecting Robinson and pergida to disgrace themselves on Saturday.
Pergida Arrests O Anti Pergida 1
Could this be a start to a trend ?
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-Talbot-
Just had an idea which might make both of us happy (especially you), and call an end to this.
If I retract my earlier statement, and then followed up with a a more detailed piece about BNP antisemitism, would that be okay?
It's from a Jewish website who analysed statement from BNP leader Nick Griffin.
That should sort it out for both of us, right?
Nice compromise?
Just had an idea which might make both of us happy (especially you), and call an end to this.
If I retract my earlier statement, and then followed up with a a more detailed piece about BNP antisemitism, would that be okay?
It's from a Jewish website who analysed statement from BNP leader Nick Griffin.
That should sort it out for both of us, right?
Nice compromise?
Pergida UK is just a re-branding exercise by Robinson.
The NF, BNP and EDL attracted very small numbers, of a certain demographic. The Pergida movement in Europe in contrast attracted familes, women, in fairly large numbers. Robinson observed that and came away of dreaming of a similar mass movement in the UK.
Unfortunately, judging by saturday's low turnout consisting of the same supporters as the previously failed organisations, the rebranding hasn't worked.
Pergida UK could have possibly have worked, if it had someone other than Robinson and his personal baggage, as leader.
The NF, BNP and EDL attracted very small numbers, of a certain demographic. The Pergida movement in Europe in contrast attracted familes, women, in fairly large numbers. Robinson observed that and came away of dreaming of a similar mass movement in the UK.
Unfortunately, judging by saturday's low turnout consisting of the same supporters as the previously failed organisations, the rebranding hasn't worked.
Pergida UK could have possibly have worked, if it had someone other than Robinson and his personal baggage, as leader.
agchristie
Hang on.
With the current refugee crisis in Europe, the Paris attacks and Charlie Hebdo, in addition to the massive amounts of coverage on immigration in the media in general...why on earth wasn't the march huge this year???
Seriously - it should have attracted tens of thousands.
As it was, I could have just about every marcher over for a barbecue without worrying whether I'd gotten enough potato salad and hotdogs in.
Hang on.
With the current refugee crisis in Europe, the Paris attacks and Charlie Hebdo, in addition to the massive amounts of coverage on immigration in the media in general...why on earth wasn't the march huge this year???
Seriously - it should have attracted tens of thousands.
As it was, I could have just about every marcher over for a barbecue without worrying whether I'd gotten enough potato salad and hotdogs in.
> why on earth wasn't the march huge this year???
Seriously - it should have attracted tens of thousands.
The support and strength of feeling cannot solely be judged on numbers in a march. As momentum gains and more marches occur and the message spreads more in the UK you may then have to re-evaluate your stocks of hotdogs.
Seriously - it should have attracted tens of thousands.
The support and strength of feeling cannot solely be judged on numbers in a march. As momentum gains and more marches occur and the message spreads more in the UK you may then have to re-evaluate your stocks of hotdogs.
Talbot - //Put simply, Andy ...sp is trying to goad me into saying something that perhaps would get my answer removed. Why has he repeatedly said I sound upset?
Point me to where I sound upset ... //
Thanks for your response.
I would not wish to get into your exchanges with sp, but I would say that one thing he and I have in common is a willingness to pursue a debate point to a satisfactory conclusion.
This does have the unfortunate by-product of annoying some AB'ers, but such is life.
Because sp and I approach debate from more or less the same perspective, and we largely agree on most things, I feel I can speak for him, as well as myself, when I say that I do not believe either of us to be 'passive aggressive'.
It is never my intention, nor I believe sp's, to deliberately provoke anyone into saying something that gets them suspended. So, hopefully we are clear moving forward.
Point me to where I sound upset ... //
Thanks for your response.
I would not wish to get into your exchanges with sp, but I would say that one thing he and I have in common is a willingness to pursue a debate point to a satisfactory conclusion.
This does have the unfortunate by-product of annoying some AB'ers, but such is life.
Because sp and I approach debate from more or less the same perspective, and we largely agree on most things, I feel I can speak for him, as well as myself, when I say that I do not believe either of us to be 'passive aggressive'.
It is never my intention, nor I believe sp's, to deliberately provoke anyone into saying something that gets them suspended. So, hopefully we are clear moving forward.
No agchristie
That's not quite accurate.
The marcher did not say "that there were *plenty*of males and females, young, old, black, white, ex muslims on the march."
You inferred that, but that is not what he said.
Also, as I have said before, he writing on a Pegida-affiliated blog. What we really need is an objective witness, not someone who has an agenda (like me and you, and I dare say, Svejk).
That's not quite accurate.
The marcher did not say "that there were *plenty*of males and females, young, old, black, white, ex muslims on the march."
You inferred that, but that is not what he said.
Also, as I have said before, he writing on a Pegida-affiliated blog. What we really need is an objective witness, not someone who has an agenda (like me and you, and I dare say, Svejk).
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