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Why Do The Lefties Loath Their Country So Much?
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/// But I cannot help observing the grotesque irony that in the capital of Germany this deluded woman should have spoken of how ‘England’s fascistic side’ affected the British view of Germany and World War II. ///
/// She even had the nerve to grumble about being ‘completely brainwashed’ by films she saw in her childhood showing the British ‘being marvellous and beating the Nazis’. ///
You can't get any more anti-British than that.
/// But I cannot help observing the grotesque irony that in the capital of Germany this deluded woman should have spoken of how ‘England’s fascistic side’ affected the British view of Germany and World War II. ///
/// She even had the nerve to grumble about being ‘completely brainwashed’ by films she saw in her childhood showing the British ‘being marvellous and beating the Nazis’. ///
You can't get any more anti-British than that.
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AOG - //That seems a most sensible approach, just as long as you stick to what you propose, and that you refrain from calling my opposition to what you state as nit-picking. //
I can live with that.
//I also will take on board your criticisms of myself, just as long as they are not fabrications, and that they are delivered in a none pompous, none supercilious fashion. //
They are - I was feeling spectacularly non-pompous and non-supercilious for the entire time I was writing them!
LOL!
I can live with that.
//I also will take on board your criticisms of myself, just as long as they are not fabrications, and that they are delivered in a none pompous, none supercilious fashion. //
They are - I was feeling spectacularly non-pompous and non-supercilious for the entire time I was writing them!
LOL!
andy-hughes
After all that you proposed, you had to revert to your old ways once again.
Why this, "For your education" I do not need you to educate me regarding the the Glastonbury Festival or anything else for that matter.
/// So that meant that I, and I am sure others, who have never heard Tony Benn speak, could spend an hour listening to what he had to say, and in the majority of cases, agreeing with him. ///
And would I not be right in assuming that persons of the Left would be more inclined to gather in the tent to listen to a left-wing politician, and in the majority of cases, agreeing with him?
/// Personally, I was nodding, but I am not a 'leftie' - could you consider that I was not the only person of a different political persuasion who took an opportunity to hear an alternative view point free of charge? ///
You state that you are a person of a different political persuasion, then perhaps you would care to tell us what that political persuasion may be? It then makes it a lot easier for us not to parcel you up with those on the Left, because at the moment it is most confusing since you always seem to side with the lefties while condemning the righties.
/// You seem to judge it as slavish 'lefty' worship - I on the other hand saw it as an addition to my education ///
Perhaps just as you would if you were to spend one hour listening and nodding to what Tommy Robinson had to say?
Hope you consider this to be a fair response to your post and not just "nit-picking"?
After all that you proposed, you had to revert to your old ways once again.
Why this, "For your education" I do not need you to educate me regarding the the Glastonbury Festival or anything else for that matter.
/// So that meant that I, and I am sure others, who have never heard Tony Benn speak, could spend an hour listening to what he had to say, and in the majority of cases, agreeing with him. ///
And would I not be right in assuming that persons of the Left would be more inclined to gather in the tent to listen to a left-wing politician, and in the majority of cases, agreeing with him?
/// Personally, I was nodding, but I am not a 'leftie' - could you consider that I was not the only person of a different political persuasion who took an opportunity to hear an alternative view point free of charge? ///
You state that you are a person of a different political persuasion, then perhaps you would care to tell us what that political persuasion may be? It then makes it a lot easier for us not to parcel you up with those on the Left, because at the moment it is most confusing since you always seem to side with the lefties while condemning the righties.
/// You seem to judge it as slavish 'lefty' worship - I on the other hand saw it as an addition to my education ///
Perhaps just as you would if you were to spend one hour listening and nodding to what Tommy Robinson had to say?
Hope you consider this to be a fair response to your post and not just "nit-picking"?
AOG - //After all that you proposed, you had to revert to your old ways once again. //
I give up.
I will never win with your hyper-sensitivity.
You look for attacks where none exist, you always want to fight, you always demand justification for a simple point of view.
I tried to extend the olive branch - I made a joke of yet another of your endless references to me being pompous and supercilious, even though you were being provocative, as you always are, and as you always accuse others of being.
No, I don't feel inclined to discuss my political persuasions with you - and it is only you who are interested, so you could replace 'us' with 'me' unless you speak for your coterie of similarly minded attackers.
The only way for you and I to co-exist on a thread on this section is for us not to directly interact - a system I am putting into place right now.
I request that you leave me alone, don't question me, don't comment on my views, in short, just leave me alone.
And that is a request, before you launch into your 'How dare you tell me ... likes of you' tirades.
You could have accepted the hand of conciliation, but you are unable to refrain from criticism and snide comments, and personal questions.
I no longer wish to debate with you.
Thank you for your attention.
I give up.
I will never win with your hyper-sensitivity.
You look for attacks where none exist, you always want to fight, you always demand justification for a simple point of view.
I tried to extend the olive branch - I made a joke of yet another of your endless references to me being pompous and supercilious, even though you were being provocative, as you always are, and as you always accuse others of being.
No, I don't feel inclined to discuss my political persuasions with you - and it is only you who are interested, so you could replace 'us' with 'me' unless you speak for your coterie of similarly minded attackers.
The only way for you and I to co-exist on a thread on this section is for us not to directly interact - a system I am putting into place right now.
I request that you leave me alone, don't question me, don't comment on my views, in short, just leave me alone.
And that is a request, before you launch into your 'How dare you tell me ... likes of you' tirades.
You could have accepted the hand of conciliation, but you are unable to refrain from criticism and snide comments, and personal questions.
I no longer wish to debate with you.
Thank you for your attention.
Gavmcp - //Has the Daily Mail been drinking?
Everyday it reports on what is wrong with this country and the scum that inhabit this land. Now it's saying "I *** love this country!" like a drunk at the end of a night. //
The Mail blows with the wind - it will pander to whatever current neurosis its readers are griping about - black crime, Muslim crime, asylum crime ...
Sadly, it tends to be a bit limited, rather like the views of the majority of its readership - certainly the ones who quote on here anyway.
Everyday it reports on what is wrong with this country and the scum that inhabit this land. Now it's saying "I *** love this country!" like a drunk at the end of a night. //
The Mail blows with the wind - it will pander to whatever current neurosis its readers are griping about - black crime, Muslim crime, asylum crime ...
Sadly, it tends to be a bit limited, rather like the views of the majority of its readership - certainly the ones who quote on here anyway.
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From Andy Hughes: "Fair point Sqad.
I would like to be associated with the remarks of the last speaker.".
Ichkeria said: "Yes well said sqad".
What Sqad (in part) said was: 'Yes, once, "this Royal Throne of kings, this sceptred Isle" was the "envy of the world......NHS, roads, railways, Welfare State, Judicial system and education, but the rest of the world has caught up.'.
"Rest of the world", Squad? Would you (or perhaps one of your admirers) care to qualify that statement?
I would like to be associated with the remarks of the last speaker.".
Ichkeria said: "Yes well said sqad".
What Sqad (in part) said was: 'Yes, once, "this Royal Throne of kings, this sceptred Isle" was the "envy of the world......NHS, roads, railways, Welfare State, Judicial system and education, but the rest of the world has caught up.'.
"Rest of the world", Squad? Would you (or perhaps one of your admirers) care to qualify that statement?
PiedPiper - //I like the Daily Mail. Read it on-line every morning. I must be limited. //
I was careful to refer to the majority of its readership - I have been a Mail reader for forty years, have it delivered.
But I never read Sara Vine (Are you thinking what she's thinking, God I hope not, I will have to put my eyes out with rusty forks!), and I never read Littlejohn, a nasty narrow-minded Little Englander who sends his vitriol over from his gated property in the U.S.!
The sport is great though!
I was careful to refer to the majority of its readership - I have been a Mail reader for forty years, have it delivered.
But I never read Sara Vine (Are you thinking what she's thinking, God I hope not, I will have to put my eyes out with rusty forks!), and I never read Littlejohn, a nasty narrow-minded Little Englander who sends his vitriol over from his gated property in the U.S.!
The sport is great though!
vetuste - //"Rest of the world", Squad? Would you (or perhaps one of your admirers) care to qualify that statement? //
Agreeing with one specific individual comment sqad made certainly does not make me one of his 'admirers' - we have butted heads on many occasions on here, so I will excuse myself from your request on the grounds that I don't qualify.
Agreeing with one specific individual comment sqad made certainly does not make me one of his 'admirers' - we have butted heads on many occasions on here, so I will excuse myself from your request on the grounds that I don't qualify.
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PiedPiper - //I still feel insulted by the generalisation. //
Really?
You must be a little too sensitive for this section I would suggest - that wouldn't even qualify as a snidy remark for the seasoned battlers on here!
May I suggest that you mentally absent yourself from the 'majority' of Mail readers - as do I - and then the 'insult' will be rendered harmless.
Really?
You must be a little too sensitive for this section I would suggest - that wouldn't even qualify as a snidy remark for the seasoned battlers on here!
May I suggest that you mentally absent yourself from the 'majority' of Mail readers - as do I - and then the 'insult' will be rendered harmless.
andy-hughes
So if you say such things, then it is quite in order, but if I had said it you would have took the same attitude.
Who is always referring to my use of the words "the likes of you" meaning simply "a similar person"
Who is sensitive then? Why you are even sensitive on behalf of others.
I have no wish to fight, but I refuse to cowl down to you or anyone else for that matter.
/// I tried to extend the olive branch - I made a joke of yet another of your endless references to me being pompous and supercilious, even though you were being provocative, as you always are, and as you always accuse others of being. ///
That time I did not directly accuse you of being pompous and supercilious, merely asking you to refrain from being so if you criticise my posts, and a lot of good that did.
/// No, I don't feel inclined to discuss my political persuasions with you - and it is only you who are interested, so you could replace 'us' with 'me' unless you speak for your coterie of similarly minded
attackers. ///
I am sure most of my "coterie of similarly minded
attackers" (your words not mine) would also wish to know, what is the big secret?
But since you are a little cagey over anyone knowing, forgive us if we lump you in with the other lefties, (If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck), as the saying goes.
So if you say such things, then it is quite in order, but if I had said it you would have took the same attitude.
Who is always referring to my use of the words "the likes of you" meaning simply "a similar person"
Who is sensitive then? Why you are even sensitive on behalf of others.
I have no wish to fight, but I refuse to cowl down to you or anyone else for that matter.
/// I tried to extend the olive branch - I made a joke of yet another of your endless references to me being pompous and supercilious, even though you were being provocative, as you always are, and as you always accuse others of being. ///
That time I did not directly accuse you of being pompous and supercilious, merely asking you to refrain from being so if you criticise my posts, and a lot of good that did.
/// No, I don't feel inclined to discuss my political persuasions with you - and it is only you who are interested, so you could replace 'us' with 'me' unless you speak for your coterie of similarly minded
attackers. ///
I am sure most of my "coterie of similarly minded
attackers" (your words not mine) would also wish to know, what is the big secret?
But since you are a little cagey over anyone knowing, forgive us if we lump you in with the other lefties, (If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck), as the saying goes.
jack - /////Surprised no one has yet picked up on the difference between loath (loth) and loathe.///
I'm sure many of us had. It's just that AOG doesn't seem to be in a very receptive mood for having things pointed out to him.... //
I think your understatement klaxon may be faulty, please allow me - WHHHHHAAAAAARRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!
Always a pleasure.
I'm sure many of us had. It's just that AOG doesn't seem to be in a very receptive mood for having things pointed out to him.... //
I think your understatement klaxon may be faulty, please allow me - WHHHHHAAAAAARRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!
Always a pleasure.
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