Is It Because There Is No One Good Enough.

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First the Oscars then the BAFTAS now the Brits, maybe just maybe there are no black artists worthy of an award this year, Organisers of the awards announced plans for a new advisory committee to help them more effectively
acknowledge diverse talent.

http://news.sky.com/story/1648078/embarrassing-lack-of-diversity-at-brits

this from the article, "lack of recognition for artists including Krept and Konan, Stormzy and Little Simz."

Who are are Krept, Konan, Stormzy and Little Simz?,

what happened to Luther Vandross, Alexander O'Neil, Lionel Richie, all three have probably sold millions and million more records the three above, perhaps their music is not that POPular.



heres the winners from the 2015 MOBO's any one spot anything?

http://www.mobo.com/winners/2015



Dave.

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I really enjoyed it too.

[Hypognosis]

Thanks for setting me straight, on that point, sp. My inattention to actual nominees/winners I put down to age.

Emile Sande probably has record sales big enough not to be fussed about awards (which I consider to be no better than PR, just as the Oscars try to draw people to the terribly worthy but (we suspect) dull stuff. (Marvellously sent up by Kate Winslet, in an Episode of Extras).

Laura Mvula appeared on Later with Jools shortly after (not having anything suitably timed to garner an award at) the MOBOs last year (or the one before?). I couldn't help thinking it was award-winning material, just badly timed. (Still, no sense deferring the income stream just for the sake of mantle ornaments).

[sp1814]

Hypognosis

Actually - on the contrary with Emeli (I wish she would spell her name normally)...she has the Brits to thank for her career. She was named the Critics' Choice about four years ago, and then the following year she went on to win Best British Female Artist.

To be honest, perhaps 2016 was a good year for artists, black, white or otherwise not to be nominated...seeing as Adele wiped the floor with nearly all the competition.

Better to be in a 'weak' year.

[naomi24]

//Is It Because There Is No One Good Enough//

I presume so.

[ummmm]

She performed brilliantly though. I really like Adele. Her car interview with James Corden was classic.

[sp1814]

ummmm

It seemed effortless.

And I love the fact that her singing voice and her speaking voice are worlds apart.

When she sings, she encapsulates everyone great British vocalist from Dusty Springfield, through to Alison Moyet.

And when she speaks, she sounds like she could be Alan Carr's sister.

[sp1814]

naomi24

There are plenty of great British black musicians, producers and singers. However, in 2015 - there were very few top line stars who had material out. It's a very narrow view to assume that just because the Brits one year didn't have many black stars, that the talent isn't out there and they are just 'not good enough'.

[ummmm]

Alan Carr is from the town I live :-) I don't speak like him though....

[Svejk]

^Just look like him, then?

[ummmm]

Like my twin brother.

[Ric.ror]

I'm not even going to mention how we gingers are grossly underrepresented

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Fender and sp 1814, that's the point I was making, who has heard of krept, konan, stormzy and little simz, but I'm sure we've all heard oh Luther, Alexander O'Neal and Lionel Richie, where are the brilliant black soul singers nowadays.


Apologies for any typos as I'm on my way to wo on a wobbly bus on my iPhone.



Dave.

[naomi24]

SP, //There are plenty of great British black musicians, producers and singers. //

Doubtless, and two of them were recognised. There are plenty of white people in the profession who weren’t on the list either. They can’t all be winners.

//Organisers of the awards have announced plans for a new advisory committee to help them more effectively acknowledge diverse talent.//

'Acknowledge diverse talent'? How patronising! That statement is nothing to do with 'talent'. It's the height of politically correct selective wording. They won’t even say what they mean!

[Svejk]

naomi24 /// They can’t all be winners.///

Ah, now then. I've just seen a brilliant suggestion that should even make Sp happy. (for once)
Why don't we open a factory that churns out millions of Oscars, Emmy's, Brits, etc, and when black people reach, let's say, 18 yrs of age, we give them one of each.
It could create a bit of work in a depressed area and give the rest of us five minutes peace.

[naomi24]

mmmm ... it's a thought. ;o)

[dannyk13]

Although they may be good artists maybe they are not better that those nominated.

[bazwillrun]

exactly dannyk..but as usual they think they have entitlement as a right...perhaps they should look at what the word minority actually means...

want want , gimme gimmme, bwah bwah....

[jourdain2]

The only one of the above of whom I have heard is Lionel Richie - he is a very good singer, lovely voice - so I suppose the answer from me is that the others are just not good enough and can take the chips off their shoulders.

[bazwillrun]

Lionel Richtea makes a damn fine biscuit , ill give him that...

" take the chips off their shoulders. "

dont hold your breath !