There Shouldnt Even Be One Claim...

[bazwillrun]

http://news.sky.com/story/1654459/crackdown-on-prisoner-compensation-claims

I dont care what the reasons are, what was done or not done to them, for the most part these are trash, these scum shouldnt even be allowed to lodge a claim in the first place.

Why are they even allowed to claim ?...oh let me guess oooman frikkin rights..Pfffttt

[Togo]

//There is of course more bullying and victimisation carried out by the prisoners.//

I would have been clearer in my intent nails, had I added the words ''than there ever was'' to the above line.

[EDDIE51]

Good night Nalit , I know you speak the truth .

[Baldric]

Is a driver not responsible for his vehicle and contents (think Calais & HGV)
No one ever said life was fair.

[Peter Pedant]

// I don't disbelieve you, but, bottom line, they are jailed for a crime, not being thick.// Balders

I think that is true - now lets talk about all those paras and ex paras who are going to be jailed for war crimes Balderic .....

[Baldric]

There is no E in Baldric, and how are you connecting me with Paras?

[THECORBYLOON]

Mentioning the forces, are all the former members of HMF in gaol, scum/scumbags/trash?

[nailit]

(I seem to have got second wind..)
Corby, I find it sick that ex forces personell in prison are described as scum/trash.
Theres something seriously wrong with the justice system.

[Mamyalynne]

What is self evident here is that the thread was actually about an intersting topic - Compensation Claims etc.

But because of the huge generalisation of words like 'scum' 'trash' and others similar the premise which was fit for discussion has gone.

We can't generalise or if we do then we lose perspective and topics go wildly off track.

[Svejk]

Of course, they deserve every penny they get. We wouldn't like it if we fell out of bed.

[naomi24]

Criminals, by the very nature of their chosen occupation, relinquish their right to anything other than humane treatment. They have opted to live a life that is unacceptable to civilised society. An end to this ridiculous culture is not before time.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Surely to have access to human rights you first have to act like a human. By definition a criminal is someone who infringes someone else`s rights so if they dont recognise other peoples rights how can they possibly lay claim to them. I cant think of a single crime that, directly or indirectly, does not affect someone`s human rights.

[nailit]

//I cant think of a single crime that, directly or indirectly, does not affect someone`s human rights.//
What about someone who grows cannabis for his own use?
How does that affect anyone elses human rights?

[Baldric]

^^ it deprives a dealer of his profits

[nailit]

^lol Baldric

[CrapAtCryptics]

Apart from the fact its against the law and can be obtained, I believe legally, if you have a condition that requires it or a valid substitute. Cannabis damages your lungs, due to its higher burning temperature, incurring hospital bills. You also get people who, like drink driving, who think its ok to drive when on drugs - note the increase in drug driving signs at the roadside.

[bazwillrun]

ok for the benefit of those like capsman who think they can read but definitely cant process heres what I said in the OP..."for the most part these are trash"

the meaning of that is pretty clear to me...operative part being "for the most part" meaning not all but a majority of...so its pretty clear i didnt class them all as scum, but as usual the same old suspects on here twist and distort threads to suit...
and still nobody can give a good reason why an apology isnt enough, why do these for the most part scum have to be given compo in the form of money ?

[pixie374]

I think nailit and baldric are both right. I don't have experience with prisons, I do with mental health and they are far more likely to end up in prison- and yes, usually because some sort of crime has been committed. But you also have to consider whether treatment or punishment will be effective for most of them. I would suggest any compensation due is awarded and given to an appropriate charity.

[naomi24]

pixie, //I would suggest any compensation due is awarded and given to an appropriate charity. //

Why? Why should the public purse be burdened at all?

[CrapAtCryptics]

Sorry the dealer one doesnt work - as he should have paid taxes on his profits - thereby disadvantaging honest tax payers and legitimate claimants. TIC
I think my first sentence is the most applicable to this scenario though - its funny how those who break the law without a second thought are the first to embrace it when they feel they have been disadvantaged.

[pixie374]

Because they are entitled to it, but don't need it.