Maybe Footballer Adam Johnson Won't Get Such A Harsh Jail Sentence After All?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3481721/Middle-aged-lesbian-fondled-drunk-15-year-old-schoolgirl-tent-jailed-32-months.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

"Johnson and the Asian Taxi Drivers are both groomers."
"One crime is worse than the other."
"But the crime is the same. And so should the punishment. It appears inconsistent to not treat the two acts of criminality exactly the same."

Worse OR the same? Worse AND the same?

[pixie374]

I didn't say that, divebuddy! I said you compared them.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Whose self-contradictions do you think are the more glaring, Pixie: Divebuddy's or Gromit's?

I respect your opinion in these matters.

[pixie374]

Just don't lie about what I said, please.
I don't think gromit is contradicting himself.

[jackthehat]

Grooming is its own specific offence.
Both Johnson and the Rochdale abusers were charged with that offence and found guilty.

In addition, the Rochdale gang were charged with other offences which Johnson was not; I'm not certain whether Johnson was charged with anything that they weren't.

[-Talbot-]

Johnson and the Asian Taxi Drivers are both groomers. One crime is worse than the other, but the crime is the same. And so should the puishment.


That sounds like a contradiction to me.
Gromit you say the punishment should be the same ... how come?

[pixie374]

That wasn't me that said that.

[pixie374]

Ah no, divebuddy, I meant your
divebuddy
^^^^ According to Pixie all things are comparable

[agchristie]

Blimey, pity this isn't being debated in a studio, we could have had a compere....

[-Talbot-]

anotheoldgit
Question Author
jackthehat

/// Not terribly far removed from "I gave you a signed football shirt, now it's your turn to give me something" is it? ///

Even though a signed football shirt costs loads more than a few swigs of vodka, what was received in return for the shirt could not possible be anywhere on the same level as what was expected and received in return for the vodka.



''Even though a signed football shirt costs loads more than a few swigs of vodka''


Jesus H Christ , AOG!

[Gromit]

If you murder one person, or if you murder 10 people, you are in both instances a murderer and should be treated the same. That is not a contradiction. So how come you think it is a contradiction if the word groom replaced murder.

[Gromit]

I look forward to the sentence and might comment further then. But I'm done here.

[-Talbot-]

The same crimes?

Zafran Ramzan, 21, was jailed for nine years after being found guilty of raping a 16-year-old girl in her own home and two counts of sexual activity with a child.


Haven't been following the Johnstone case that closely so I may have missed the part about rape

?