This From A Group Who Are Always Demanding Equality, When They Don't Practice It Themselves.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3492872/LSE-Islamic-Society-holds-segregated-event-veil-room-separate-male-female-students.html

[sp1814]

AOG

The word 'equality' isn't quite right here.

If the blokes were being served halal lobster Thermidor (if that's a thing) whilst the women were only had scraps from the kitchen, then it would be totally unacceptable.

I'm sure you support equality for Jewish people - but they have exactly the same set up in synogogues.

[woofgang]

I used to go to business events with my late husband and, while there was no dividing screen, it was quite common for the hosts to arrange things so that the women all sat at one end of the table and the men sat at the other....no religious connotation, it was just the way most people liked it. DH and I didn’t so we either ignored the segregation or didn’t go.

[EDDIE51]

Who is 'Demanding Equality'? Definitely not the Islamic Society!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Don't try and sidetrack this issue.

This thread is about Muslim's insistence on segregation.

If you wish to attack the Jews, please feel free to enter a separate thread on that subject yourself.

[jackthehat]

A Muslim Association insisted that an event it hosted was segregated along traditional lines.
Those attendees were aware of this and chose to pay their £20 anyway.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// A Muslim Association insisted that an event it hosted was segregated along traditional lines. ///

Well they would wouldn't they, Allah forbid they go against tradition.

I doubt whether you also view male and female marriages, as also being along 'traditional' lines?

[jackthehat]

Is that you having yet another little dig at me?

If you are a member of an organisation you tend to adhere to its' rules. The Islamic Society didn't force anyone to attend who didn't want to be 'segregated'.
It happens in other Clubs and Societies, too.

[Mamyalynne]

Surely those not keen on the dinner and the set up just didn't go?

[hc4361]

At least the women who wanted to go were allowed to, unlike some traditional golf clubs, old boys' clubs and gentlemen's clubs. And all the other clubs closed to women like the Freemasons.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// Is that you having yet another little dig at me? ///

Not just you personally, so don't be so touchy.

You know perfectly well that anyone who only assumes the traditional marriage is between a man and a woman, is lampooned as living in the past.

So why are you not lampooning these Muslims, are they not also living in the past?

[anotheoldgit]

It's amazing how far some of you will go to defend such practices when they happen to be carried out by Muslims.

Yet if our own were to carry the same thing out, they would be classed as bigoted sexists.

hc4361 even went to the trouble of criticising traditional golf clubs, old boys' clubs, gentlemen's clubs and even the Freemasons.

[hc4361]

Yes, I did. Before criticising the traditions and practices of others, look to your own culture, AOG.

If you believe segregation is wrong, say it wrong in every circumstance.

[Mamyalynne]

No defence of anyone or anything here - a simple choice, if I don't like the way a function is set up I decline the invitation and have done.

If I felt strongly within a group I may rally to change the way things are run but otherwise would make my own plans.

[jackthehat]

///You know perfectly well that anyone who only assumes the traditional marriage is between a man and a woman, is lampooned as living in the past.///

No, I don't know that perfectly well......and don't believe I have ever seen it written here, either.

Are you hoping to move this thread away from your OP because it is not going quite the way you hoped/intended?

[sp1814]

AOG

The point is - both Muslim and Jews have traditions of separating men and women. Perhaps you can assist us by explaining the difference in the way that the women in the link are being treated unequally?

Are they forced to sit at the back, or are they seated alongside the men, separated by a curtain?

Can you identify specifically where I have attacked Jews? Is pointing out the similarity in religious and/or social observance an attack?

How does that work?

Also, there is absolutely no need to respond to jackthehat in the way that you did at 12:47. She gave a reasonable response, and you then took at personal dig at her.

You wrote:

I doubt whether you also view...etc

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

You know perfectly well that anyone who only assumes the traditional marriage is between a man and a woman, is lampooned as living in the past.

No. That's not quite right.

Everyone assumes the traditional marriage is between a man and a woman.

That's the whole point of the word 'traditional'. Everyone agrees that a traditional marriage is between a man and a woman.

What you are mistaking is the difference between what is traditional for Muslims and Jews (the separation of males and females at the same event) and what we used to see in golf clubs and some men's clubs - the outright banning of women.

Can you see the difference?

Seems patently obvious to me, and I suspect - others.

I'm not sure why you're so ignorant of these practices. I went to a Jewish ceremony at a synogogue a few years ago and was surprised to see the congregation separated. I had it explained to me back then. I thought it was weird, but my mate said it was the only time of the week he got any peace.

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// Yes, I did. Before criticising the traditions and practices of others, look to your own culture, AOG. //

As I have previously explained to sp1814, this thread is not about my own cultural traditions, it is about this particular news story.

So if you wish to criticise the imperfections of certain Western cultural traditions, then I further suggest that you enter a thread regarding that matter, yourself.

[Islay]

He won't look at his own culture because it does not suit his agenda of demeaning other cultures SP1814!!

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

So you as a woman have no particular criticism to make regarding your own sex being segregated in such a way and being offered the alternative, "if you don't like the way we segregate you females, then you don't have to attend"?

[sp1814]

AOG

But it's not just the females who are segregated.

It's the men too.

Any way you look at it - both sexes are being treated equally.

Please define what you mean when you say that this group is not practicing equality.

Some specifics would help us.