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AOG

Yes, I agree with you...let's ignore everything else for the moment and concentrate on what you originally put forward.

Looking at the link - what is your point about equality? I can see that you didn't actually ask a question, but wanted to draw our attention to something.

What was that?

You're flogging a dead horse, aog.
What does the treatment of women matter when they can have a pop at you?
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jackthehat

/// Are you hoping to move this thread away from your OP because it is not going quite the way you hoped/intended? ///

Perhaps you would be best to level your criticism of moving the thread away from my OP at some of your fellow Muslim defenders.

And don't sit back smugly satisfied that this thread is at the moment is going against me, it as so far only been attended by the usual suspects.
Your tendency to 'attack' one user is becoming tiresome!

How can we demand that other cultures practice equality when your own does not.
Svejk

We aren't having a pop at AOG. He had a pop at jackthehat, but in reality, we're trying to understand exactly what he means.

He has linked to a story which doesn't demonstrate inequality.

If he'd instead opened a thread about Muslim women not being allowed to drive, or go out unaccompanied or get an education, then that would be different.

I'm afraid that he simply picked the wrong story, and when challenged, hasn't really provided us with a narrative that makes sense.
AOG

Technically, I'd argue that this thread isn't going against you, because you've not actually put an argument supporting what you initially said.
Mr AOG
It is the culture of Islam.Best they keep the sexes segregated. If the ladies sit and chat with the gentlemen over their mutton and chappatis and are not chaperoned by a family member then they will have to take them out to the Quad and stone them to death before the Cheese and Port comes around.
Allah wills it don't ya know?
AOG as I stated, if I were a member of that particular society and disliked the way they operated I may well try to voice my concerns from within or if I didn't have the wish to do that then ignore the parts of the societies functions that didn't suit me.

In much the same way I have never attended a Hen party, but still remained friends with the bride to be.
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sp1814

/// Are they forced to sit at the back, or are they seated alongside the men, separated by a curtain? ///

Who said anything about being forced to sit at the back? Being forcibly to sit behind a curtain from their fellow males diners is a disgusting practice in itself.

/// Can you identify specifically where I have attacked Jews? Is pointing out the similarity in religious and/or social observance an attack? ///

Again where have I stated that you have attacked Jews, since you brought Jews into a debate about Muslim practices, I politely offered you the opportunity to attack Jews in the same way, if you so wished.

/// Also, there is absolutely no need to respond to jackthehat in the way that you did at 12:47. She gave a reasonable response, and you then took at personal dig at her. ///

As I have already explain to the lady in question, I was not taking a personal dig at her, only assuming that perhaps she has the same view against those who support male/female marriages.

You really must get rid of that huge chip that you are carrying, and also please refrain from reading some things in my posts that don't exist, even though you would wish them to.



Choices, choices, mamya. Aren't you lucky to have them.
I am yes, I am quite sure all those invited to the dinner had the choice to attend or not also.
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sp1814

/// but my mate said it was the only time of the week he got any peace. ///

How very chauvinistic of him, and I presume he also thinks that a woman's place is in the kitchen?
Are you, indeed.
It states within the article that others unhappy with the segregation have ceased to attend - their choice.

I would most likely be one of their number but of course that is pure speculation.
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sp1814

And I suppose it was the women's idea to put up a dividing curtain in the first place.

No it is for the same reason that some of their masters force them to cover up from head to toe, before going out of doors?
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Islay

/// Your tendency to 'attack' one user is becoming tiresome! ///

Yes I agree, but it's all in a day's work for the anti-AOG Brigade.
You gotta love the way that the Daily Mail keeps reiterating "There is no suggestion that anyone attending the event was an extremist.".

Does the 'anti AOG Brigade' have an annual dinner?

Not that I'd be on the invite list.
Why is it not equality?
Males and females are attending the same event. If it were a man only event, then that would be inequality and discrimination, but that is not what is happening.

It is their club, and their rule. Like it is not against any law to insist on no trainers or men must wear a tie before entry. Private clubs can have their own silly rules, and as long as no one is barred entry due to their sex or colour, then there is no inequality taking place.

Football fans who are segregated from each other are not being discriminated against.

^It'll be muesli and nut cutlets, there then.

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