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Alexander Blackman Refused Bail.
For what reason would they refuse him bail, he not a risk to the general public.
Another case of out of touch judges.
Sgt Alexander Blackman refused bail pending new appeal
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Another case of out of touch judges.
Sgt Alexander Blackman refused bail pending new appeal
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//Not sure there is anything progressive about letting a convicted murder out on our streets// Gromit would never ever support such a Liberal action....in any circumstance
20:27 Wed 21st Dec 2016
Quizproquo, //What if an afghani force had invaded London and the exact same scenario had happened, with let's say a 62 year old white grandad of 5 as the shot victim.//
That’s not the “exact same scenario”. It bears no resemblance to the original scenario. Your hypothetical ‘victim’ is a civilian aged 62 and a grandfather of 5 – and what his status as a grandfather has to do with it is anyone’s guess.
That’s not the “exact same scenario”. It bears no resemblance to the original scenario. Your hypothetical ‘victim’ is a civilian aged 62 and a grandfather of 5 – and what his status as a grandfather has to do with it is anyone’s guess.
I was telling people that they should keep their comments to themselves unless they can be totally sure they are not influenced by racism or xenophobia
(two attitudes that are not difficult to find on this site!)
As I said this appeal will be decided on FACT alone ! I still think his chance of a successful outcome is slim!
(two attitudes that are not difficult to find on this site!)
As I said this appeal will be decided on FACT alone ! I still think his chance of a successful outcome is slim!
Perhaps he thought he was facing one of the "people" who dismembered one of his fellow Marines, and hung his body parts in different trees. As you do. Still we have rapists and paedophiles out on bail, so its OK. The peevish and politically flawed Liberal "elite" once again skew justice to fit their own fifth column agenda. Loudly hailed and supported by their virtue signalling fan club, most of whom hail from parts of the world where justice is indeed an alien concept.
There is a huge amount of emotion floating around on this thread.
A large number of people feel that the refusal of bail is unfair, and that the judges are 'out of touch'.
I would suggest that the concept of what is fair, and what is public opinion are not involved here - because this is a legal process, which must be followed in order for the rule of law to be effective.
The rule in this instance is clear - bail shall only be offered in what the court considers to be exceptional circumstances, and on this occasion, that criterion is not met, therefore bail is refused.
Is it a shame that MS Blackman will spend Christmas in prison? Yes it is - but it is the correct decision under legal process. Is it wrong that he stays in prison? No it is not.
Given what we know of the circumstances, it is highly likely that his conviction is going to be quashed, or commuted, but that will be decided when his case reaches Appeal, and until then he remains convicted, and therefore must remain in prison.
A large number of people feel that the refusal of bail is unfair, and that the judges are 'out of touch'.
I would suggest that the concept of what is fair, and what is public opinion are not involved here - because this is a legal process, which must be followed in order for the rule of law to be effective.
The rule in this instance is clear - bail shall only be offered in what the court considers to be exceptional circumstances, and on this occasion, that criterion is not met, therefore bail is refused.
Is it a shame that MS Blackman will spend Christmas in prison? Yes it is - but it is the correct decision under legal process. Is it wrong that he stays in prison? No it is not.
Given what we know of the circumstances, it is highly likely that his conviction is going to be quashed, or commuted, but that will be decided when his case reaches Appeal, and until then he remains convicted, and therefore must remain in prison.
Talbot - //Chad Evans was a rapist , and many people on this site took great delight in that - although those same people were remarkably silent when he was exonerated, //
I took part in every thread that discussed the Ched Evans case, and I contributed to them all at length as well.
I never read any posts that took 'delight' of any level at Evans being convicted as a rapist, and I would question that anyone who debated the issue fell silent when his appeal was upheld.
I took part in every thread that discussed the Ched Evans case, and I contributed to them all at length as well.
I never read any posts that took 'delight' of any level at Evans being convicted as a rapist, and I would question that anyone who debated the issue fell silent when his appeal was upheld.
//Here was a man deemed so trustworthy, that while on bail before his original court martial, he was allowed to instruct other Royal Marines with live ammunition. Unheard of.//
//Here was a model prisoner-teaching maths and volley ball to other prisoners-one who had a home, loving wife and a proper job as a physical training instructor waiting to support him. Nor could there be any question of him being a bail risk. Sitting in court were several men, including the novelist and former fighter pilot, Frederick Forsyth Tory MP Richard Drax, ex SAS officer, Major General John Holme DSO MC and former Royal Marine turned entrepreneur John Davies, all of whom were ready to offer sureties to the court. Many more were waiting, chequebooks at the ready//
Of course the men named would have been like a red flag to a bull in a courtroom controlled by a politically driven, subversive, Liberal anti British establishment.
//Here was a model prisoner-teaching maths and volley ball to other prisoners-one who had a home, loving wife and a proper job as a physical training instructor waiting to support him. Nor could there be any question of him being a bail risk. Sitting in court were several men, including the novelist and former fighter pilot, Frederick Forsyth Tory MP Richard Drax, ex SAS officer, Major General John Holme DSO MC and former Royal Marine turned entrepreneur John Davies, all of whom were ready to offer sureties to the court. Many more were waiting, chequebooks at the ready//
Of course the men named would have been like a red flag to a bull in a courtroom controlled by a politically driven, subversive, Liberal anti British establishment.
//The law states that bail is only offered under exceptional circumstances, and the circumstances in this case do not meet that criteria//
Says a judge with his own slant on the "law". All he has to do after making a decision based on what "HE" thinks is dust it with legal jargon to justify his pernicious and vindictive choice of action. Meehh.
Says a judge with his own slant on the "law". All he has to do after making a decision based on what "HE" thinks is dust it with legal jargon to justify his pernicious and vindictive choice of action. Meehh.
// Says a judge with his own slant on the "law". All he has to do after making a decision based on what "HE" thinks is dust it with legal jargon to justify his pernicious and vindictive choice of action. Meehh. //
Not sure the law works like that in practice. Judges have very little flexibility at their disposal, which is how it should be. The Law has to be Universal - the exact same in every court, for it to be fair.
Not sure the law works like that in practice. Judges have very little flexibility at their disposal, which is how it should be. The Law has to be Universal - the exact same in every court, for it to be fair.
That is exactly how the "law" has begun to be applied. Hence we have paedophiles and rapist on bail with soldiers victimised and hounded by the lawyers and judges. The glee is evident in some quarters of course, but a true wind of change is blowing, driven by actions such as these all over Europe. It will not be pretty when the end game begins to play out. People are waking up to what is being done, in their names and for their own "good" of course. The lies are unravelling.
Togo - // //The law states that bail is only offered under exceptional circumstances, and the circumstances in this case do not meet that criteria//
Says a judge with his own slant on the "law". All he has to do after making a decision based on what "HE" thinks is dust it with legal jargon to justify his pernicious and vindictive choice of action. Meehh. //
It is not about making a choice, vindictive, pernicious, or otherwise.
You seem to be of the opinion that the court has its own agenda on MS Blackman based on the individual circumstances of his case.
It doesn't. The court, and the judge presiding follows the law as it is laid down, and his own agenda is a figment of your vivid imagination.
The law does not bend to individual cases - how can it? That would instantly cease to be a legal system that can be applied fairly.
That is why MS Blackman has been refused bail - not because the judge doesn't like him, or doesn't approve of what he has done, or is a liberal lefty lentil-steamer.
It is because the judge has applied the rule of law.
That's it. Nothing more or less than that.
Says a judge with his own slant on the "law". All he has to do after making a decision based on what "HE" thinks is dust it with legal jargon to justify his pernicious and vindictive choice of action. Meehh. //
It is not about making a choice, vindictive, pernicious, or otherwise.
You seem to be of the opinion that the court has its own agenda on MS Blackman based on the individual circumstances of his case.
It doesn't. The court, and the judge presiding follows the law as it is laid down, and his own agenda is a figment of your vivid imagination.
The law does not bend to individual cases - how can it? That would instantly cease to be a legal system that can be applied fairly.
That is why MS Blackman has been refused bail - not because the judge doesn't like him, or doesn't approve of what he has done, or is a liberal lefty lentil-steamer.
It is because the judge has applied the rule of law.
That's it. Nothing more or less than that.
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