Who'll Join Me In A Boycott

[Samjenko]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/modest-wear-hijab-kanye-west-show-nyfw-debenhams-choice-a7588761.html#commentsDiv

[fiction-factory]

Your Answer...No, I never said that and you know it. Nice try though. There is no logic in linking it to this thread . If you think the sort of a woman who is beaten by her husband for not wearing one is going to go out and buy one of these then what makes you think that

[joggerjayne]

If they make a waterproof one, it will be quite useful in the wet weather.

And a furry one for skiing.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, here you are – from October 2016. //I wrote a stinking letter to my local British Homestores store because they were selling slippers with the words OLD and GIT embroidered on them.//

Your willingness to drag up ancient posts in order to have a pop at me is positively scary you really need to get out more - or at least confine yourself to the debate and stop being so obsessed with the minutia of what I say - other posters are available for you to pick on.

[Islay]

Its OK FF they will twist the truth to suit their thoughts and opinions.
The truth is the women that will go and buy these scarves are forward thinking Muslim women the type of women we want to encourage to help change the future for women who may not be so lucky.

[andy-hughes]

sp1814 - //It's odd how some people think they know so much about Muslim women and their attitudes to traditional dress. //

Indeed.

Some on here read some sensationalist piece in a tabloid and think it confers on them an expertise on Muslim culture and behaviour and allows them to get all het up about something they actually know nothing about.

[sp1814]

"Maybe before making such glib observations, you'll spare a thought for all the woman and children who are beaten for not wearing a hijab."

That statement stretches your argument to breaking point.

There are women who are beaten by their husbands for not wearing the hajib.

There are women who actively want to wear the hajib.

Should the latter not have the choice because of the former?

An example - there are women who are forced into prostitution by their husbands and boyfriends.

If Debenhams sells sexy lingerie and high heel shoes, would you be saying, "Think of those women who are forced to dress like that by their pimps"?

I mean - carry that through to its logical conclusion and Valentine's Day 2017 is going to be a rather tepid affair.

[sp1814]

joggerjayne

Their a Muslim girl who works in our finance department who loves the fact that she can come to work with (as she describes) 'bird's nest hair' without anyone knowing.

;-)

[-Talbot-]

Islay
Its OK FF they will twist the truth to suit their thoughts and opinions.
The truth is the women that will go and buy these scarves are forward thinking Muslim women the type of women we want to encourage to help change the future for women who may not be so lucky.



Could you expand on that ... who are the women who are not so lucky?

[Islay]

I said MAY not be so lucky Talbot please don't try and put words in my mouth! This was a nod in yours and Naomi's direction for all those women that are forced to wear these apparent torture implements!

[fiction-factory]

Seems pretty obvious to me Talbot- the sort of women who are less free to choose where they shop and what they wear. Not sure where that takes us with this topic though.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, //If you think the sort of a woman who is beaten by her husband for not wearing one is going to go out and buy one of these then what makes you think that//

I didn’t say that and I don’t think that. You suggested that the sale of these garments will protect women from beatings.

andy-hughes, no one is picking on you or having a pop at you. You’re taking part, voluntarily, in a discussion and if people disagree with you, or provide evidence that contradicts your posts, so be it. That's the nature of discussion.

[-Talbot-]

You are making no sense, Islay.

Could you expand on that ... who are the women who MAY be not so lucky?

[fiction-factory]

>You suggested that the sale of these garments will protect women from beatings.

Did I? Where was that Naomi?

[naomi24]

Islay, //This was a nod in yours and Naomi's direction for all those women that are forced to wear these apparent torture implements!//

Your nod would be better placed in encouraging women to seize their freedom and abandon the regulatory Islamic uniform altogether!

[-Talbot-]

No nods, no directions ... which women did YOU mean, Islay?

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, At 10.40.: //So you seem now to be concerned about women who are beaten for not wearing a hijab. And yet you don't want Debenhams to sell some. I don't get it//

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, no one is picking on you or having a pop at you. You’re taking part, voluntarily, in a discussion and if people disagree with you, or provide evidence that contradicts your posts, so be it. That's the nature of discussion. //

I might recall something you have said yesterday, the day before at a push, but the fact that you recall posts I made four months aho hints at an interest bordering on obsession.

Why not focus your interest on another AB'er - there are plenty to choose from - your obsession with constantly responding to me every single time I post is beginning to look stalker-ish, and not 'in the spirit of debate' at all.

[joggerjayne]

sp ...

They could possibly catch on as a disguise for bad hair days.

Any day your hair is just all going wrong (quite often, for those of us who quite often look like we've just had a fight / had sex with a hedge) ... you just whap on your hijab, and claim you're showing affinity with Muslim girls.

[fiction-factory]

I see the thread has been steered away from Debenhams now by usual tactic of diversionary questions by those who realise the illogicality of their anti Muslim virtue signalling on a thread about Debenhams.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //I might recall something you have said yesterday, the day before at a push, but the fact that you recall posts I made four months aho hints at an interest bordering on obsession. //

Don't kid yourself. Who could ever forget 'slippergate'. ;o)