Crosswords1 min ago
Some Action Must Be Taken
After a terrorist attack, some people say that 'action must be taken', and that 'the West must wake up'.
These are abstracts - can anyone explain in (without the use of abstractions) what specifically they mean by 'action'.
These are abstracts - can anyone explain in (without the use of abstractions) what specifically they mean by 'action'.
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At risk of sounding all " elitist".... The elephant in the room here is that very, very few of us are really qualified to make a judgement about effective security policies. It could be that "banning muslims" (to take a common example) or forcibly closing mosques would reduce our risk of terror attacks to 0. It's equally plausible that it wouldn't, because...
14:11 Thu 23rd Mar 2017
AOG
You are making assumptions about the killer. Your assumptions may well be right, but they may also be wrong.
You are blaming RECENT immigration. But the police have said the terrorist "was investigated some years ago about extremism". So the chances are he is not a recent immigrant.
The man wrongly accused yesterday was born in this country, so wasn't an immigrant at all.
So why not just wait a couple of hours to see who and what he is before we blame Tony Blair or the Liberal Elite or recent immigration. Whe we have some facts, we can then comment on them. Blind speculation is pointless.
You are making assumptions about the killer. Your assumptions may well be right, but they may also be wrong.
You are blaming RECENT immigration. But the police have said the terrorist "was investigated some years ago about extremism". So the chances are he is not a recent immigrant.
The man wrongly accused yesterday was born in this country, so wasn't an immigrant at all.
So why not just wait a couple of hours to see who and what he is before we blame Tony Blair or the Liberal Elite or recent immigration. Whe we have some facts, we can then comment on them. Blind speculation is pointless.
Gromit
I did not say that an ID card would have prevented yesterday's attack, but they would help in many other ways.
Why are some so against them, what have they got to hide?
The police have the right to ask a driver to show their driving licence, one needs a passport to travel overseas, one needs an ID badge in most areas of employment etc, etc.
I did not say that an ID card would have prevented yesterday's attack, but they would help in many other ways.
Why are some so against them, what have they got to hide?
The police have the right to ask a driver to show their driving licence, one needs a passport to travel overseas, one needs an ID badge in most areas of employment etc, etc.
Now that's interesting - arming the police.
I would absolutely support that. That would be a real and obvious action that we could take.
Not sure if the banning of halal meat is a workable response.
Unless the idea is to force all Muslims to leave the UK. There are some serious implications to that, which would need to be addressed if it ever were to come to pass.
I would absolutely support that. That would be a real and obvious action that we could take.
Not sure if the banning of halal meat is a workable response.
Unless the idea is to force all Muslims to leave the UK. There are some serious implications to that, which would need to be addressed if it ever were to come to pass.
AOG
Driving and overseas travel are not compulsary, we have a choice whether to get a driving licence or a passport.
You say ID would help in so many ways, but then don't say what those many ways are. I don't think they would help at all. The money they would cost would be better used on methods that are known to work. The stimate for ID cards 10 years ago is that they would cost £5.4Billion. That money should go to things that genuinely prevent terrorism, not a useless bit of plastic.
Driving and overseas travel are not compulsary, we have a choice whether to get a driving licence or a passport.
You say ID would help in so many ways, but then don't say what those many ways are. I don't think they would help at all. The money they would cost would be better used on methods that are known to work. The stimate for ID cards 10 years ago is that they would cost £5.4Billion. That money should go to things that genuinely prevent terrorism, not a useless bit of plastic.
mikey4444
///Gromit is right here at 11:52. There were plenty of people on here yesterday, that were left with egg on their faces, after leaping to the wrong conclusions. Let the Police do their job and identify the dead terrorist first. ///
I think we can say that he has already been identified, which sadly enough for some, rules out the possible chance that he may have been a 'white Muslim convert'.
/// The 'lone wolf' jihadist, described by witnesses as 'Asian and in his forties', has not been named by police while investigations continue into any possible associates. ///
///Gromit is right here at 11:52. There were plenty of people on here yesterday, that were left with egg on their faces, after leaping to the wrong conclusions. Let the Police do their job and identify the dead terrorist first. ///
I think we can say that he has already been identified, which sadly enough for some, rules out the possible chance that he may have been a 'white Muslim convert'.
/// The 'lone wolf' jihadist, described by witnesses as 'Asian and in his forties', has not been named by police while investigations continue into any possible associates. ///
"The 'lone wolf' jihadist,". How can he be a 'lone wolf' when some of his associates are already under arrest, and each one of them will be linked to a large number of others directly and via the internet - hundreds maybe thousands are involved and culpable.
I think the term should be dropped, it gets used in an attempt to dilute what this jihadism really is; well organised group terror.
I think the term should be dropped, it gets used in an attempt to dilute what this jihadism really is; well organised group terror.