Trump Supports Britain First !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42166663

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

The perfect answer:

/// Don't focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. ///

This is surprising:

/// Britain First's aim has been to make noise on Facebook and other networks rather than to get people elected. The group has nearly 2m likes - far outpacing the Labour Party (1m) and the Conservatives (650,000). ///

[-Talbot-]

Latest speech by our Prime Minister ::::

'There are those that conduct terrorism in the name of Islam but it is not in the name of Islam'

Always confuses me that one. Why are the Islamic terrorists telling pork pies?

[jim360]

Do you mean, "Why are people hell-bent on causing death and destruction and in recruiting others to join their cause also occasionally dishonest?"

[-Talbot-]

I mean why do they do it in the name of Islam when they are apparently telling fibs.

Why are they insistent on telling these lies?

If not Islamists .... who are they really?

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Do you mean, "Why are people hell-bent on causing death and destruction and in recruiting others to join their cause also occasionally dishonest?"//

No, the question is why do such people use the war cry "Allahu Akbar!" when they could just as easily use something else like "Jesus Saves!" or "This if for Trump!".

[vetuste_ennemi]

(That post is a little test for Jim. Is he up to speed on the latest apologetics? We all know that jihad means going to the gym, Jim - nothing to do with violence. Do you know what "Allahu Akbar now means"?)

[Ellipsis]

Let’s deconstruct this...

Throwing people off buildings- bad

Posting videos of people being thrown off buildings- bad

Not checking facts - bad

Being deliberately misleading in order to garner duped support - bad

Making unsubstantiated claims over who was doing what to whom - bad (shoddy journalism; fake news)

Retweeting those claims - bad, especially if you are POTUS

Interfering in the politics of the UK when you are POTUS - bad

Condemning Islamist terrorism - good

Condemning any form of terrorism - good

[Old_Geezer]

Obvious isn't it -Talbot- ? They claim it is in the name of Islam because that is a warped version of Islam that they wish to be dominant. By calling it Islam they hope to persuade the gullible to support them and make it awkward/fearful for others in their community to speak out. But the majority of Muslims don't agree it is anything to do with Islam and will see the terrorists as a dangerous cult that mars their reputation. Most folk simply want to live in peace with their family and friends, and to prosper.

[mikey4444]

Ellipsis....another common sense post !

[naomi24]

Mikey, hmmmm... particularly the bit that says //Being deliberately misleading in order to garner duped support - bad//

See your heading.

[Ellipsis]

A retweet indicates support unless there is supporting commentary that says otherwise, which there was not in this case.

What's probably particularly upsetting to Theresa May, a female MP, is that "Britain First" were the words shouted by Thomas Mair as he murdered Jo Cox, a female MP, only last year. So for Trump to retweet three Britain First tweets was meddlesome and insensitive.

[ichkeria]

Did Trump think those videos were filmed in the UK? One was the Netherlands (and by all accounts involved actual Dutch people), one was Egyptian and the other Syrian.
And his spokesperson claimed that the fact the videos may not have been genuine was irrelevant!! So some fake news is obviously acceptable.
We have reached the state now where the govt is reduced to not wanting to call off the state visit, but doing everything it can to hold it off for as long as possible, maybe till after 2020 :-)

[Islay]

He is such a ***

[andy-hughes]

I have said at various times since President Trump was elected, and this does somewhat underline the point I made -

Twitter is not a dignified and appropriate way for the President Of The United States to convey his thoughts to the world.

For exactly the same reasons it is occasionally unsuitable for anyone - Twitter gives an opportunity for instant emotional ill-considered thoughts and views to be posted late at night from over-refreshed individuals who would probably reconsider in the cold light of day.

If you are Samantha from Essex, no harm done, if you are the leader of the free world, then an element of thought, common-sense, and acceptance of consequences are required - something President Trump consistently fails to understand.

[ichkeria]

Trump doesn't possess any of those things to start with.
Twitter is ideal for him.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //What have I made up about Trump Naomi ?//

“Trump Supports Britain First !”

You made that^ up!

//what amazes me is that there are people, here on AB, that have viewed all his gaffs and plain nastiness, just as everybody else has, and then pretend that he isn't a racist, and misogynist !//

Speaking what to you are unpalatable truths makes him neither a racist nor a misogynist. What amazes me is that there are people here on AB who refuse to acknowledge that those he is criticising warrant criticism – but are nevertheless plain nasty. You have a very nasty habit - downright spiteful actually - of sticking derogatory labels on people you don’t like - but you forget to follow up with your usual ‘bigot’ this time.

[Togo]

I think that word may fade from Mikey's lexicon now Naomi, since I pointed out the synonym jingoist. You know how jingoistic he is. :))

[mikey4444]

Naomi....by re-tweeting tweets from BF, he was giving them the oxygen of publicity, which everybody, including Mrs May now admits was wrong....he was legitimising BF by his actions.

BF doesn't need to be legitimised.....the organisation needs to be condemned for trying to stir up racial hatred....again a sentiment echoed by our PM.

Jayda Fransen was convicted of religiously aggravated assault for shouting at a woman in a hijab last year.

A few days ago, she was charged with employing "threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour" and is due to appear at Belfast Magistrates' Court on 14 December.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //he was legitimising BF by his actions.//

Don’t be ridiculous. He was condemning the actions of people who would happily chop your head off - and there’s no point in you conveniently hiding behind Mrs May’s skirts again. She was as wrong as you are to join in with this disgraceful melee!

[mikey4444]

Its Official folks !......Mrs May is wrong, because Naomi ( I'm always right) says so !

Naomi....read what I has written about Jayda Fransen....all entirely factual by the way......why are you supporting this woman ?