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Trump Supports Britain First !
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Naomi, do you believe everything you read? I have not personally investigated JaydaBF's posts to see whether they are true. From reading around, it seems that they are not. I might have guessed they wouldn't be, based on past form. It makes no difference to me, because I'm not retweeting them. I get my news from more reliable sources, not those with a vested...
13:44 Tue 05th Dec 2017
Naomi, do you believe everything you read?
I have not personally investigated JaydaBF's posts to see whether they are true. From reading around, it seems that they are not. I might have guessed they wouldn't be, based on past form. It makes no difference to me, because I'm not retweeting them. I get my news from more reliable sources, not those with a vested political or religious interest.
Life is not so simple as "My enemy's enemy is my friend". My enemy's enemy could in fact be my enemy. That is why Trump, if he wanted to say something about Islamist terrorism, should have just said it - without supporting BF in the process.
I have not personally investigated JaydaBF's posts to see whether they are true. From reading around, it seems that they are not. I might have guessed they wouldn't be, based on past form. It makes no difference to me, because I'm not retweeting them. I get my news from more reliable sources, not those with a vested political or religious interest.
Life is not so simple as "My enemy's enemy is my friend". My enemy's enemy could in fact be my enemy. That is why Trump, if he wanted to say something about Islamist terrorism, should have just said it - without supporting BF in the process.
Ellipsis, //That is why Trump, if he wanted to say something about Islamist terrorism, should have just said it//
He’s said it in the past and this doesn’t change his opinion or his allegiances. You are shooting the messenger and you’re determined to make a mountain out of a molehill. The whole thing is disingenuous claptrap.
He’s said it in the past and this doesn’t change his opinion or his allegiances. You are shooting the messenger and you’re determined to make a mountain out of a molehill. The whole thing is disingenuous claptrap.
Spicey .....Jo Cox's killer did shout out "Britain first" although there is still some doubt as to his meaning.
No doubt about this, more recent incident though ::::::
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No doubt about this, more recent incident though ::::::
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> you’re determined to make a mountain out of a molehill
Naomi, you think it is a "molehill" that the President of the USA would retweet Britain First. At the same time, you find it "worrying" that me, "Mikey, Eddie, Jeremy Corbyn, and Mrs May, think Trump was wrong to agree with [JaydaBF]." I can only conclude that you also support Britain First but, unlike Theland, you'd rather not admit it in public.
Naomi, you think it is a "molehill" that the President of the USA would retweet Britain First. At the same time, you find it "worrying" that me, "Mikey, Eddie, Jeremy Corbyn, and Mrs May, think Trump was wrong to agree with [JaydaBF]." I can only conclude that you also support Britain First but, unlike Theland, you'd rather not admit it in public.
Trump re-tweeted the BF videos from a tweet by someone he follows, conservative polemicist and VE hero Ann Coulter. As has been pointed out already neither Coulter or Trump were likely to have had the faintest idea who BF were. Nobody outside Britain (most people inside, for that matter) has ever heard of BF; the fictitious threat to civil society posed by BF is a local and specialised study.
As for the content (which I haven't seen) apparently there are gays being pushed off buildings and one of a Dutch "immigrant" beating up a disabled kid. I've heard that the "fact-checkers" have pointed out that the thug in the latter video was not in fact an immigrant, but a Dutch-born Netherlands citizen. Ho, ho, ho! "Read my lips: no new taxes."
As for BF inspired crime, I'm reminded of the Manchester police exercise which simulated a terrorist attack when the guy playing the terrorist shouted "Allahu Akbar!". The police had to apologise because the phrase was an unfair slur on the moderate, peace-loving Muslim majority. Somebody killing you while shouting "Allahu Akbar", you see, has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. By that logic Ellipsis' quoting Mair's alleged "Britain First" has nothing to do with BF and is a slur on all the moderate, peace-loving BF members.
Mikey's research has produced an attempted murder by a Pole who "the court was told" (I'd guess by prosecuting counsel) had once contributed to BF.
But, for the sake of argument, I'll take the BF atrocity count as one murder and one failed attempt. Now look at some other numbers. This from a Times article on a recent intelligence report (most of you will have seen this):
"Intelligence officers have identified 23,000 jihadist extremists living in Britain as potential terrorist attackers...
About 3,000 people from the total group are judged to pose a threat and are under investigation or active monitoring in 500 operations being run by police and intelligence services. The 20,000 others have featured in previous inquiries and are categorised as posing a “residual risk”.
The two terrorists who have struck in Britain this year — Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber, and Khalid Masood, the Westminster killer — were in the pool of “former subjects of interest” and no longer subject to any surveillance."
Anti-terrorism efforts came under renewed scrutiny when it emerged that Abedi, who murdered 22 people when he detonated a suicide bomb among crowds leaving a pop concert at Manchester Arena on Monday, had been a former subject of interest to MI5.".
Britain burns; pass the fiddle!
As for the content (which I haven't seen) apparently there are gays being pushed off buildings and one of a Dutch "immigrant" beating up a disabled kid. I've heard that the "fact-checkers" have pointed out that the thug in the latter video was not in fact an immigrant, but a Dutch-born Netherlands citizen. Ho, ho, ho! "Read my lips: no new taxes."
As for BF inspired crime, I'm reminded of the Manchester police exercise which simulated a terrorist attack when the guy playing the terrorist shouted "Allahu Akbar!". The police had to apologise because the phrase was an unfair slur on the moderate, peace-loving Muslim majority. Somebody killing you while shouting "Allahu Akbar", you see, has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. By that logic Ellipsis' quoting Mair's alleged "Britain First" has nothing to do with BF and is a slur on all the moderate, peace-loving BF members.
Mikey's research has produced an attempted murder by a Pole who "the court was told" (I'd guess by prosecuting counsel) had once contributed to BF.
But, for the sake of argument, I'll take the BF atrocity count as one murder and one failed attempt. Now look at some other numbers. This from a Times article on a recent intelligence report (most of you will have seen this):
"Intelligence officers have identified 23,000 jihadist extremists living in Britain as potential terrorist attackers...
About 3,000 people from the total group are judged to pose a threat and are under investigation or active monitoring in 500 operations being run by police and intelligence services. The 20,000 others have featured in previous inquiries and are categorised as posing a “residual risk”.
The two terrorists who have struck in Britain this year — Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber, and Khalid Masood, the Westminster killer — were in the pool of “former subjects of interest” and no longer subject to any surveillance."
Anti-terrorism efforts came under renewed scrutiny when it emerged that Abedi, who murdered 22 people when he detonated a suicide bomb among crowds leaving a pop concert at Manchester Arena on Monday, had been a former subject of interest to MI5.".
Britain burns; pass the fiddle!
/// the organisation needs to be condemned for trying to stir up racial hatred ///
Is it stirring up racial hatred to publish videos or pictures of Islamic atrocities?
I think I might have said something like this before, but would I be condemned for placing such items taken from the Daily Mail?
Of course I would, simply because there are some who hate AOG and also the Daily Mail.
Can anyone attach a similarity to what is taking place here?
Is it stirring up racial hatred to publish videos or pictures of Islamic atrocities?
I think I might have said something like this before, but would I be condemned for placing such items taken from the Daily Mail?
Of course I would, simply because there are some who hate AOG and also the Daily Mail.
Can anyone attach a similarity to what is taking place here?
VE....nobody is saying that the risk from extreme Islam isn't a threat....it obviously is. I am just correcting your earlier assertion that
"How many of Ms Fransen's extra followers are going to rush out and kill a Muslim?"
By the way, read the Independent article one more time. The assertion that Marek Zakrocki was a supporter on BF was indicated when the Police found a stash of Britain First flyers and newspapers at his home in Harrow.
"How many of Ms Fransen's extra followers are going to rush out and kill a Muslim?"
By the way, read the Independent article one more time. The assertion that Marek Zakrocki was a supporter on BF was indicated when the Police found a stash of Britain First flyers and newspapers at his home in Harrow.
mikey4444
Marek Zakrocki is Polish, perhaps we should send all of them home, he was also described as a Neo-Nazi, could well be true because the Police found a Nazi coin in his house lol.
/// Officers later found a Nazi coin and two Britain First magazines at Zakrocki's home. ///
Regarding the dreaded BF, here is a batch of them, typical knuckle dragging skin heads, aren't they?
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Marek Zakrocki is Polish, perhaps we should send all of them home, he was also described as a Neo-Nazi, could well be true because the Police found a Nazi coin in his house lol.
/// Officers later found a Nazi coin and two Britain First magazines at Zakrocki's home. ///
Regarding the dreaded BF, here is a batch of them, typical knuckle dragging skin heads, aren't they?
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