Fox Hunt Killing.

[Khandro]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fox-hunting-great-thurlow-hunt-boxing-day-suffolk-police-investigation-illegal-killing-fox-a8129446.html

The Head of the Hunt said; "It's magnificent that so many well-wishers make such a huge effort to get here to show their support."

Do you think it is "magnificent"? Are you a "supporter"?

[B00]

To be fair Islay, I think the question is justified. You've admitted you enjoy hunting, it's not inconceivable for someone to ask you why.

Personally, I abhor fox hunting, until someone convinces me otherwise I cannot see what pleasure there is in pursuing an animal and then watching it being torn apart.

[murraymints]

I think that people who enjoy maiming and killing animals for pleasure need educating !

[nailit]

I think people that maim and kill animals for pleasure need a short stay at her majestys pleasure!

[Zacs-Master]

Crikey, and I thought Brexit divided people!

[aelmpvw]

nothing beats a foxhunting debate for creating a bloody punch up

[douglas9401]

Or indeed a debate on who is better educated. :-)

[whiskeryron]

One assault on a human by a dog & the unfortunate animal is put to death, yet it appears in some quarters to be OK for humans to enlist the aid of pack animals to tear another wild creature to pieces for their
' pleasure'. Seems pretty one sided to me. I am quite happy to see a fox hunted by ONE human, & see who wins.

[Islay]

Firstly I never said I enjoyed hunting I said i had been on several hunts - different thing entirely - I actually enjoy the ride!
Also I was on the hunt when it was still legal to do so.
The only fox I have seen killed was unfortunately got to before the master of the hunt got to it.
As for being locked up in jail that is your opinion nailit.
As for the other points thrown at me please let me know if I have missed anything out.

[mikey4444]

Islay...Nobody is denting the pleasure of cantering around the countryside on horse back.

But you could settle this once and for all by stating whether you agree with fox hunting or not now.

[Islay]

Yes I agree with fox hunting in certain circumstances
Perhaps when you are asked straight questions in future Mikey you could be as straight forward in answering them!

[murraymints]

participation in a blood sport rather implies pleasure in such activities to my mind...

[Ryzen]

You reap what you sow..:-)

[Islay]

Well murray your mind is not somewhere I really want to be.

[B00]

What circumstances?

Yes I get that these 'pests' might need to be controlled (though the animal lover in me balks at that too), but it's the whole blood lust thing that I find so appalling, the apparent enjoyment that some huntmens and women appear to deride from seeing an animal being killed.

[murraymints]

nor would I want you there !

[-Talbot-]

Islay
Yes I agree with fox hunting in certain circumstances
Perhaps when you are asked straight questions in future Mikey you could be as straight forward in answering them



LOL LOL

[Ellipsis]

I can't understand why the David Attenborough programmes are so popular. Almost every single one of them shows animals being killed in the most vicious ways by other animals, often hunting in packs, yet most people seem to detest this idea.

Every carnivorous or omnivorous animal is a hunter. A fox is omnivorous, making it a hunter, and that's its problem. While a fox is alive, it is killing other animals in much the same way that the hounds kill it.

I don't like foxhunting, but I don't dislike it. It's an irrelevance, if you accept that foxes have to be killed somehow, i.e. that they are vermin, which I do.

But that's all a bit moot, as foxhunting is illegal. So as for "It's magnificent that so many well-wishers make such a huge effort to get here to show their support" ... support for what? I would suggest they are not showing their support for foxhunting, but for the countryside tradition of keeping and riding out with hounds. There'll always be an England, take back control and all that.

[murraymints]

ellipsis..tis the great circle of life and law of the jungle... being pursued by men and women with dogs is not in any way natural predation... can't watch the old zebra/lion thing myself !

[B00]

It's the whole killing for fun that we find abhorrent Ellipsis, as far as I'm aware no other animal, other than ourselves, kill for pleasure.

Whilst people claim foxes kill for pleasure, ie, more than they can eat (so therefore it must be fun) this simply isn't true. They kill surplus which if left undisturbed they'd return to later.

[Ellipsis]

"Killing for fun" is a different issue. That would suggest that a) foxes aren't vermin and b) foxhunting was legal. I agree that "killing for fun" is bad.

Foxhunting is just not worth getting hot under the collar about when millions, perhaps billions, of such deaths are perpetrated every day in the natural world, and especially when foxhunting is already illegal!