Can't Black Children Be 'little Monkeys' Also?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5245887/Critics-call-boycott-H-M-racist-advert.html

[Mamyalynne]

I can make my own mind up Togo, am sure you can too.

[NellieMay]

Agree totally with Naomi and Barmaid. My first thoughts too on reading about it today.

[murraymints]

don't think it was intentionally racist..but the connotations are there for all to see..

[sp1814]

Whilst I ponder on the new version of ‘racist’, I think we need to take a step back and remember something - this is another Twitter storm. Newspapers now rely on Twitter as a source of online content.

On Twitter, which can be a bit like the Wild West, there will always be groups of people wandering around screaming “Boycott this, boycott that” at the drop of a hat.

They’re the same type of person who send threatening messages to whichever celebrity has fat-shamed someone, posed with a rhino they’ve shot, or said something ‘disagreeable’ on Celebrity Big Brother.

It’s highly unlikely we actually know anyone like this in real life, but whilst our newspapers focus on Twitter for content (rather than, I dunno - employing investigative journalists), the narrative will always be framed by them.

They are not the usual. They are the unusual.

[douglas9401]

Yes Togo, there may have been a bereavement.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Please explain what you think racism is in this context.

[Togo]

Ohh I see Douglas........the death of common sense.

[douglas9401]

Indeed.

[naomi24]

SP, from the Oxford dictionary:

//Reverse Racism : Prejudice or antagonism directed towards a majority or (formerly) dominant ethnic group; perceived discrimination by or in favour of a minority or (formerly) oppressed ethnic group.//

[Togo]

I see that one of the twitteratia was called Alexandra Foucard............ close but no cigar.

[Mamyalynne]

You'd never fit all that on a sweatshirt.

[kvalidir]

There are a few things you wouldn't put on a t shirt of people of a certain sex, age or ethnic group unless you were mad or blind to the knowledge that for that group there is a negative connotation attached to it. You wouldn't put a black child in a T shirt that said 'Little monkey' or a gypsy child in one which said ' Little Tinker' for example. Nothing the matter if you reversed which child wore what shirt, so the shirt is not racist per se, just stupidly marketed as Barmaid etc have already said. It's just shoddy and clumsy marketing, and I'm sure no harm was intended, but now offence has been caused they've done the right thing and apologised. Is that not an end to it?

[douglas9401]

"Is that not an end to it?"

Now that's just blatantly offensive to those with a large posterior.

[Togo]

We used to say here's my head my asre is coming Douglas. :))

[sp1814]

naomi24

You've taken the American version of reverse racism (as opposed to racism, which is what we were talking about), rather than the first definition which applies to the UK, to whit:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism on the basis of race directed against a member of a dominant or privileged racial group.

However, as 'antagonism' features in the description, I will leave it this one hanging.

[naomi24]

sp, the description is appropriate.

[webbo3]

Islay @16:25
\\Therefore selling a tshirt with monkey on it is one step away imo!!//

so we cant sale t-shirts with monkeys on them ?

[sp1814]

naomi24

Thanks for teaching me the definition of racism.

Appreciated.

And by the way, a trans woman is...

[naomi24]

A modified bloke.

[dunnitall]

Ethnic 'minorities' also have names for the indigenous white people here!! Like it or not, each culture and race define other cultures/races by the name they give them.

Why are we never afforded the knowledge (printed) of what the indigenous people of these islands are called by others??. All we ever hear about is what WE ARE SUPPOSEDLY calling them and it is apparently politically incorrect.

Imo neither is right, we are humans, we inhabit this planet ... Why the animosity, why the discrimination? IMO....it's the way the world is and ne'er the twain shall meet. Oh dear ! Humans are curious creatures!! We cannot intertwine with different cultures....thus it will ever be and the sooner we know and accept it...the better we shall ALL be.