Any Doubts About Brexit?

[Khandro]

If so, please read this and learn why Britain needs to escape from the stinking quagmire of the EU establishment;
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/a-very-eu-coup-martin-selmayrs-astonishing-power-grab/

[Zacs-Master]

No she wasn’t. She was elected leader by her own party. What’s so hard to understand?

Saying ‘end of’ when it follows a complete untruth makes you look childish and places your level of argument in the ‘heard it from a mate down the pub’ catagory.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi. Please read my 14:00 post.

Anyway. I must be off to do other things on this spring like day. But don’t worry.......I’ll be back.

[-Talbot-]

Any chance of popping back to this thread?

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1598984-3.html

[Zacs-Master]

Togo, I’ve pointed out the frailties of the original post. Please back track. I’m still waiting for someone to point out the practical consequences of this new EU leader’s ‘appointment’.

[Zacs-Master]

Talbot, I think AOG killed that thread for me with his completely irrelevant ‘rivers of blood’ speech.

[Zacs-Master]

Reference. Not speech.

[ToraToraTora]

"Who are those who would seek to destroy it from within? " - well ZM and co would rather have us run by a bunch of unelected foreigners so I'd say he's up there as enemy of the state.

[dannyk13]

Promises, promises, why re you still here?
//Anyway. I must be off to do other things on this spring like day//

[Jackdaw33]

So the nutter is having a go at Enoch, now.

[dannyk13]

^are^

[Togo]

No Zacs it is you who need to "backtrack". You may like to start with my first post and the link supplied.

//As chief of staff to President Jean-Claude Juncker, Selmayr has spent the last two years astonishing and infuriating the EU establishment. He is a gatekeeper, restricting access to his boss even for high-level commissioners. He is an enforcer, imposing Juncker’s imprint (or his own) on virtually all initiatives, and plowing through those who disagree.
His peers in power say they cannot trust him. Subordinates say they fear him. //

[Spicerack]

Talbot-
// Any chance of popping back to this thread?

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1598984-3.html //

Go on. Have another go at spelling hypocrisy. ;-0

[Old_Geezer]

"At no point was there a situation where the general populace had the opportunity to vote in a conservative government with a leader who had campaigned for the party, leading up to an election."

No, no one has that direct option, but at any time the Maidenhead voters could have opted to to have a different representative. We, the public, don't elect leaders directly in our system; we elect representatives and they chose between them who should lead and thus be eligible for consideration as PM.

[naomi24]

Zacsmaster, //Naomi. Please read my 14:00 post. //

… which reads ….

//how would you describe an attempt to disrupt a system which was working perfectly well and potentially affects our world standing both politically and financially?//

So you’re saying that over 50% of the people who voted in the referendum “seek to destroy this country from within” [your words]. Seek? Really? Zacs, I suggest you get a grip. That really is the stuff of hysterical conspiracy theories.

[ToraToraTora]

ZM: //how would you describe an attempt to disrupt a system which was working perfectly well and potentially affects our world standing both politically and financially?// - by system I assume you mean the EU and by what standard is it "working perfectly well"?

[New Judge]

“So we had big problems with the EU but no one can give me 3 reasons why they voted leave or how those problems affected them in daily life.” (and numerous repetitions of more or less the same question).

Nothing the EU does significantly affects me in daily life (yet, but it would if we remained). But then nothing the UK government does affects me in daily life either. You are continually missing the point. You suggest that in leaving the EU we are ditching one lot of corrupt officials for another and should not do so. Well we did that in 1972 and I don’t recall anybody making such a point then. As I said earlier, it is not what the EU does or does not do to influence life in the UK, it is that they are in a position to do it. If you don’t understand that there is really little point in arguing the toss. You are looking for practical advantages in remaining (or disadvantages in leaving). I don’t care particularly about either (though can make adequate arguments to leave, but that’s not for this question). I’m simply interested in the UK being able to determine its own affairs, via its own representatives (whether they are corrupt or not).

Your attempt to compare the selection arrangements for the UK’s Prime Minister with those of various EU apparatchiks is simply preposterous and I’ll not bother to add to what has already been said.

[ToraToraTora]

bang on judge, as usual.

[Zacs-Master]

Togo: ‘Selmayr has spent the last two years astonishing and infuriating the EU establishment‘ he must be the leave voters hero then!

[Zacs-Master]

Tora ‘by system I assume you mean the EU and by what standard is it "working perfectly well"?’

Of course I didn’t. I meant (and wrote) the UK was / is prosperous. Still no examples of why we needed to ditch a functioning if imperfect system in favour of our own far from perfect (but working) system.

[Zacs-Master]

NJ ‘Nothing the EU does significantly affects me in daily life (yet, but it would if we remained)’

How?