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sp1814 | 13:38 Wed 09th May 2018 | News
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These people have been found guilty of using the service whilst being in the receipt of dark skin.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/airbnb-black-police-bob-marley-granddaughter-guests-neighbour-burglars-rialto-california-a8340911.html

Only kidding...I’m sure that the people who reported these black people would’ve done the same if they were white - but how many times has anyone reported a suspected burglary to the police and benefited from a helicopter being scrambled!

Awesome.

What’s the best way for black people to show they are not thieves whilst using Airbnb?
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Theland

Your whole post there makes you sound like you’re the victim.

It feels like we should all be playing the world’s smallest violins.
sp at 17:35, rubbish! For all you know the neighbour who reported what she thought was a crime being committed may have been black. If I saw someone leaving a neighbour’s house and suspected they were committing a robbery, regardless of their colour I’d call the police - and I would like to think you would too. You and people like you who look for racism in everything exacerbate your own perceived problems.
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naomi24

I hear what you say - but still, you don't know what you're talking about.
Bless....sp is convinced that a yooo toob confected video is meant to be real life. Back to you. Why not stop grasping at every straw that hints at your guilt trip syndrome? Yooo toob…….You are sounding more like Theland every day. It's evidence I tell you.

“If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it just may be a duck.”
―Walter Reuther
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naomi24

What you don't understand, in your world of privilege - is that these poor people who legally hired the house...were arrested.

They had the documentation, but still they were treated like they were criminals. For too many upstanding black people, this is too common. The default is to assume that they are up to no good. Watch the YouTube clip I posed on the previous page.

Like I said before - I'm very lucky to have grown up when I did, because my mum was terrified of me being unemployed so she focussed my mind on getting good grades at school.

The end result is that I am the recipient of 'class privilege'. I've always looked middle class, which has helped loads of times in my life.

If you don't think that being white has helped you out - then you are very naive.
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"If I saw someone leaving a neighbour’s house and suspected they were committing a robbery, regardless of their colour I’d call the police"

I've no doubt you would, Naomi, but then the question is: how much would the person's skin colour influence your suspicions?

No doubt you'll insist that it wouldn't affect your judgement at all, and while that's perhaps true, it's also not true for a great many people, and -- deliberately or merely because of innate biases -- skin colour *will* influence their judgements.
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Togo

Just kidding.

“If it walks like a horse, and neighs like a horse, and gallops like a horse, then it just might be a horse...

...unless it's a zebra.
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jim360

Absolutely - anyone who says that skin colour wouldn't affect their actions is a liar.

Same with the way they were dressed. If I were walking home, and a chap across the street were climbing in through the front window of a house, in a suit, carrying a briefcase...I would be a lot less concerned than if he were a 17 year old scally in jogging bottoms and and a fleece.
There is definitely some conscious or subconscious judgement of black people, I've seen it many many times- sometimes even as a "joke". I disagree with your comments about someone wearing a suit though- I mistrust those most of all :-). We all do it... deliberately or not.
SP, suspected of burglary they were arrested. Fair enough.

They weren’t carted off to the police station but were detained for 45 minutes whilst the police sorted it out. Fair enough.

And you still don’t know whether the person who, quite rightly, called the police was black or white.

Next!
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pixie374

I have to say, the suit thing has worked so many times for me. Last year, I went to Winter Wonderland straight after work. The following day we were going to a dinner party. I was in charge of buying the booze as a gift...as I waited to get into WW, my bag was searched. Bringing bottles in was absolutely forbidden, but the chap at the gate looked at me and said, "I can see you're not a chav - you won't be drinking this...come on in".

I think that people do make snap judgements about people - how they're dressed, their age, their sex, their race - loads of different variables.

(It was a really smart suit, so...).
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naomi24

No it's not 'fair enough' that they be detained for forty five minutes, even though they had the documentation proving that they have every right to be there.

How on earth is that 'fair enough'?

They had the phone number of the owner - how long does it take to contact the owner and ask:

"We have a couple of people leaving your home - can you please confirm details of the AirBnB you've got set up?"

How does that take 45 minutes?

How does it involve being arrested?

That's not 'fair enough'.
They do, indeed. And we all know wh shouldn't, but humans learn by making patterns out of personal experience. To me, a suit and tie is the international code for "I lie for a living...."
I wouldn't think anyone was 'quite right' to call the police if they saw someone they didn't recognise coming out of a neighbour's house with suitcases. Blimey, the police would get a lot of calls if we all did that.
//I had a good education, which means I go to work in a suit.//..sp


//To me, a suit and tie is the international code for "I lie for a living//Pixie.....

Hahaha Audrey "Just Laughed and Laughed"
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Garaman

Yep...together with a squad of police cars and a helicopter.

It has to be said though - wouldn't it be awesome if we all had that kind of response to a potential burglary.

"And you still don’t know whether the person who, quite rightly, called the police was black or white. "

It doesn't matter, unless you're labouring under the misapprehension that only white people have negative biases towards black people...
Oops! Sorry- that wasn't supposed to be a personal comment about sp!

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