Theresa May: We Risk Ending Up With No Brexit At All

[naomi24]

//The prime minister has issued a stark warning to MPs that failure to back her plan for Brexit would risk the UK not leaving the EU at all.//

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-back-my-chequers-plan-or-brexit-wont-happen-11437460

A stark warning? One could be forgiven for thinking she’s worried about flouting the democratic will of the people. Nigel Farage, speaking on ‘The Wright Stuff’ a couple of days ago, said that delaying tactics could be employed until the eleventh hour when Article 50 would be suspended. Is the real end plan coming to fruition? I think so.

[Gromit]

OG

// Remain voters do their utmost to thwart the result. //

Utter codswallop. The Government has been mandated by the people to Leave the EU. If the Government are making a hash of it, that is nowt to do with people who did not vote to Leave. Remain voters aren’t thwarting anything, they are powerless.

[EDDIE51]

^ Exactly, the other 27 can NEVER agree a deal that leaves us in a better position than we were before. Any 'deal' MUST result in us being in a worse situation than we were while we were still in.
It is exactly like a member of a sports club saying . I do not want to pay you my membership fees any more, but I demand that I can still use the club house and its facilities.

[Old_Geezer]

The "admission" is that remainers caused the mess hat Brexit now is. It's what folk have been telling you and which keeps being denied.

[dannyk13]

Gromit, I think OG is referring to the MP's who are remainers and are definitely trying to thwart Brexit.

[Old_Geezer]

THAT

[Chris38]

Goodness only knows, Cameron was a total waste of space but, almost inconceivably, May is far worse. She threw away the 2017 election with a boneheadedly stupid manifesto and is now set to destroy the Conservative party for a generation

[gulliver1]

Danny 13 , 10.51. Pot and Kettle come to mind when reading
your answer .

[Zacs-Master]

OG, you started that sentence with the fact that leave voters created the situation. Your own words. Without that fact, the second part situation would never have happened. If you couldn’t see the situation arising with a Govt who are majoritarianly pro EU, then.......

[Old_Geezer]

I this I'm giving this a rest. Can't keep up with the remainer denials etc.. Suffice to say they won't be convincing the majority who voted to leave. They can spot attempts to deny remainer activity and it's results since then

[Spicerack]

She's gotta go, and fast. Otherwise Labour will be ruining the country after the next election.

[jim360]

I don't understand this habit of blaming Remain voters -- or at least, I do, but only as an abdication of responsibility on the part of Leavers. We didn't vote for Brexit; most of us probably didn't vote for this mess of a government either; and, even if we did, almost none of those who voted remain have any active part to play in what's going on now. Blame the MPs if you must -- although even that is a bit nonsensical, as so far they haven't blocked anything Brexit-related of note, even when they tried to.

It would be equally mistaken to blame Leave voters, who have been just as disconnected from what's happened afterwards.

No, the only people to blame are the current Tory government, as well as the Tories who put us in this position in the first place.

[naomi24]

Gromit, // Remain VOTERS were being blamed for the mess. Clearly a stupid accusation as people who lost the vote have no say in how (badly) the policy is carried out by the Government.//

Since the majority of the people sitting in parliament, including Mrs May and most of her government, are Remainers, encouraged in their underhand methods by other Remainers, not stupid at all.

[Gromit]

dannyk13
// OG is referring to the MP's who are remainers and are definitely trying to thwart Brexit. //

Except he keeps saying ‘Remain VOTERS’ are to blame for the mess. They ain’t.

[Zacs-Master]

Hey, maybe we should all unite and blame Farage!

[Gromit]

Naomi,
Finally we have something to agree on. The voters who elected this dysfunctional government are to blame. (Not sure they were all remainers though).

[naomi24]

Gromit, //Except he keeps saying ‘Remain VOTERS’ are to blame for the mess. They ain’t.//

Yes, Gromit, they are. No attempt, absolutely none, has been made to abide by the result of a democratic referendum. In fact every effort has been made to avoid doing just that.

[naomi24]

Gromit at 11:18, I haven't agreed with you. You're dreaming again.

[Kromovaracun]

How is that the fault of Remain voters?

[naomi24]

Read the thread.

[Zacs-Master]

How can remain ‘voters’ influence anything?