Notting Hill Carnival

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/notting-hill-carnival-2018-knife-arches-to-be-installed-at-parade-for-first-time-ever-a3919071.html

Will knife arches and about 13,000 police officers be enough to prevent more knife crime in 'Wild West' London?

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

/// "Could you post a link to those figures please. There aren't many white people in these pictures. " ///

/// Those are pictures of the dead...Not the ones causing these crimes. ///

Never heard of the continuing problem of London's Black on Black stabbings?

I am sure if one had been a White on Black stabbing we would have heard of it.

[dannyk13]

AOG, //Well if we are going down the 'equality' path, are there only Black drug gangs in London?//
I have no idea what the proportion of white drug gangs in London is, but they do exist.

[ToraToraTora]

spath at 15:02, that is usually the case.

[naomi24]

Spath, the police have said that the majority of stabbings in London are carried out by black people. Read the link danny posted at 14:14.

[jno]

I can't find evidence of that in danny's link, naomi, do you have another source?

[dannyk13]

jno, from the link:-
in this case, about knife crime being almost exclusively a problem of young black men. That might be the case in London, but as the data that has been extracted from the Home Office reveals, taken more widely it is not true, and seeing knife crime in that way tends to obscure rather than illuminate the problem.

[naomi24]

Jno, from danny’s link.

//That might be the case in London, but as the data that has been extracted from the Home Office reveals, taken more widely it is not true.//

[ABSpareEditor]

Please note: further racist comments will result in instant suspension.

[Deskdiary]

Despite the sniffy and superior attitude of some on this thread. I think TTT has a point.

There's approximately 30,000 Met officers, and if the figures are to be believed, almost 45% of them will be policing a tiny area of one of the largest cities in the world.

As we're always being told we don't have enough officers, how do those who have taken the superior attitude square this circle?

[dannyk13]

Where does the figure of 13000 come from?
//On Sunday 6,162 will be on duty and the figure will rise to 6,858 on Monday//

[Jackdaw33]

I don't know, but it might be that they draft in officers from other forces for the duration.

[anotheoldgit]

This from the Guardian:

/// Police at this year’s Notting Hill carnival will deploy knife arches and behavioural experts to try to thwart violence, but have dropped “Big Brother”-style facial recognition amid claims it was racially discriminatory and confused men with women. ///

And yet:

/// This year, amid rising violence on Britain’s streets, the Met will go back to old technology used in new ways.| As well as knife arches, they will deploy super-recognisers – officers with exceptional memories who can spot suspects in crowds from faces they have memorised. ///

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/aug/24/knife-arches-to-be-set-up-at-notting-hill-carnival

[Zacs-Master]

I'm not sure i follow you, AOG (not for the first time). Are you suggesting that the super-recognisers will be racially discriminatory?

[anneasquith]

No one will argue that there often is violence at the NC, but many thousands of adults and children have a great weekend.

[New Judge]

"...but many thousands of adults and children have a great weekend."

And many others (a sizable number of those who live there) don't.

About forty years ago (when the carnival was far less disruptive than it is now) ago I knew a lady who Lived in All Saints Road. She had to leave her premises on Thursday evening and stay with her parents until Tuesday (hoping her flat would remain untouched in the meantime). Once or twice it didn't.

[hc4361]

Is there more crime in London over those few days than on any other weekend?