Can We Just Stop With This Nonsense.

[-Talbot-]

the attacker as in his 30s or 40s, with short, dark, curly hair, a tanned complexion and a short beard.

https://news.sky.com/story/girl-14-raped-outside-burnley-shopping-centre-on-new-years-day-11596703

a tanned complexion For Funks Sake

[ChillDoubt]

So much easier back in the 70’s and 80’s before all the PC male bovine excrement era.
We had a friend in our group who was the original throwback.
His nickname was Trop.
He had no problem with it.

He was given the monicker because he had the appearance of one who hailed from ‘tropical waters’.
Ironically he became a social worker!

The police need to be a bit more imaginative and ought to make use of a thesaurus at the very least.

[spathiphyllum]

imaginative is not what the police need to be. Factual is, surely? If they're unaware of any details for fact, they can only reiterate the victims statement. Jumping to false conclusions is worse than patience until all the correct info comes out.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah in the seventies we had a fella in the group
called 'Sp+++ie"
it rhymed with lermie

honestly I dont want to go into it further

but thanks for the memory

hey you are medical - ther was one black eyed beauty who looked like a throw back born to sort of aryan parents. And at sort of age 25 it turned out she had thalassemia.
No throw back at all - a desert luffer was involved during service in Egypt when the English were running away from the Germans.

[Ellipsis]

What is claimed we have is a situation where:

* the police are ignoring their responsibilities - making their job harder to do, less likely to result in prosecution and justice less likely to be done - by deliberately using language that is designed to obfuscate
* police let certain racial or religious groups get away with certain quite nasty crimes, like rape, for the purposes of social cohesion
* this specific case, claiming somebody had a tanned skin, was yet another example of this happening

My questions would be:

1) how does it help social cohesion to allow one group to get away with offences targeted at a second group?
2) same question, when both groups know for a fact this is taking place - how is that supposed to help social cohesion?
3) in this specific case, an arrest has been made despite the use of the word "tanned" - so in what sense are the police avoiding their duty to bring perpetrators to justice and does this arrest harm or help social cohesion?

The logic doesn't stack up.

It's claimed to help social cohesion but it would clearly do the exact opposite of that, especially if and when it became common knowledge, as it apparently already has.

It's claimed that the police used "tanned" to make their job harder, but they've still managed to make an arrest and the arrested is still a member of one of the groups that is apparently being let off.

What it's actually all about is the creation, dissemination and perpetuation of distrust in our police.

[retrocop]

PP
A tactical withdrawal please.

[spathiphyllum]

Retro i think they call that a 'cop - out'

[ChillDoubt]

imaginative is not what the police need to be. Factual is, surely?
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It surely is, so if you want them to be factual why couldn’t they put ‘of Arabic/Pakistani/Indian extraction’?
I’m sure you know the reasons why in 21st century paralysed-by-PC paranoia Britain.
Obviously the recent scandals where they were stifled and discouraged from making enquires and building cases through fear of upsetting local ethnic communities has escaped you......

[spathiphyllum]

"of Arabic/Pakistani/Indian extraction’? "

Because they don't know for a fact that he has ever been, or is from any of those places. So it's speculation, imagination, not fact.

[ChillDoubt]

Because they don't know for a fact that he has ever been, or is from any of those places. So it's speculation, imagination, not fact.
—————
He doesn’t need to be from nor been anywhere near any of those places to still ‘have the appearance’.

[Mamyalynne]

It's clear from this that the Police shouldn't release an early description from a shaken victim or a confused witness - thereby lessening the chance of debates like this.

I reiterate (presuming he is the one) , glad he has been caught, every rapist off the street can only be good news.

[retrocop]

Wonder who decided it was not in the public interest or no longer legal to display photos of escapees from prisons who are described as highly dangerous and not to be approached.
“His name is Crusher Bones.We are not allowed to show his mugshot for legal reasons so don’t approach if you see him”
Sheesh

[spathiphyllum]

chill, so they're suppose to mention every and any country that has men who look similar? Turkey? timbuktu? United arab emirates?


Get a girp they can't do that.

[naomi24]

Ellipsis, // does this arrest harm or help social cohesion?//

Clearly it helps it. You’re falling for it, as is spath. Job done.

[spathiphyllum]

or maybe the media just hasn't made me a dumb racist..

[-Talbot-]

I think the dumb is a natural gift.

[spathiphyllum]

the notion you're putting forth that the police are trying to cause social cohesion due to them not painting the picture the way you wish they did has nothing to do with the police, it has more to do with you and your perception.

You've invented a conspiracy theory because the police aren't being prejudiced. That's mental.

[naomi24]

Oddly enough, spath, all the places you mention are Muslim. What a coincidence. Incidentally, Timbuktu isn’t a country - it’s a city.

[spathiphyllum]

Ah, so in reality you actually wanted the police to assume the mans religion?

Grim.

[naomi24]

Spath, what do you think of the refusal to offer Asia Bibi asylum because it could lead to social unrest?

[spathiphyllum]

i think the social situation in pakistan and the UK is dramatically different.