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Remainers, Is This Really What You Want To Be A Part Of?
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I read something today that I thought was worth sharing. This thread is a suitable vehicle , with YMB's approval, I hope. Copy and paste it to everyone you know and love. It is how it is designed, but an armed force may be required to "make it work".
//1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention
veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes
to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being
allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be
integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000
plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been
pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit
negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled -
but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the
move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down
without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to
have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020//
//1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention
veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes
to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being
allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be
integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000
plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been
pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit
negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled -
but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the
move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down
without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to
have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020//
The claims related to 2020 and 2022 are completely false. It's possible to check the Lisbon Treaty itself if you want to be sure:
No states will lose their vetio rights on key issues. Nor will they lose their abstention. No nation will be forced to join the Euro. No forced movement of the Stock Exchange to Frankfurt.
I could go on, but it's enough to note that every single point is demonstrably false.
No states will lose their vetio rights on key issues. Nor will they lose their abstention. No nation will be forced to join the Euro. No forced movement of the Stock Exchange to Frankfurt.
I could go on, but it's enough to note that every single point is demonstrably false.
The Lisbon Treaty amendments are online:- https:/
You can search for the dates 2020 and 2022 and they don't even appear in the whole thing.
But then the target audience are unlikely to do any fact checking so I guess they aren't too bothered.
You can search for the dates 2020 and 2022 and they don't even appear in the whole thing.
But then the target audience are unlikely to do any fact checking so I guess they aren't too bothered.
I'm sure there is loads of stuff that Remainers wouldn't believe, but just on occasion it turns out to be quite a sensible decision not to just swallow anti-EU propaganda.
I do hope Togo comes back to retract, but I am not sure I should hold my breath for too long. Pretty shameful to try, and draws into question anyone's judgement who takes that sort of nonsensical crap even remotely seriously.
I do hope Togo comes back to retract, but I am not sure I should hold my breath for too long. Pretty shameful to try, and draws into question anyone's judgement who takes that sort of nonsensical crap even remotely seriously.
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