Remainers, Is This Really What You Want To Be A Part Of?

[youngmafbog]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6618789/Merkel-boasts-Germany-France-taken-steps-European-ARMY-signing-pact.html#comments

[Togo]

I bet the sociopath Gordon Brown remembers the Lisbon Treaty. Remember him? Threw telephones about the office and called old women bigots. Said we wouldn't understand the Lisbon treaty and were too stupid to vote on it and therefor backed down on a Referendum. Admitted he didn't understand the sub prime market and sold all our gold as cheap as chips, then boasted that "he saved the World".( as we know it Jim) Then gave a squillion quid to China to help with their Olympic budget and stated that any child without an iPhone was "living in poverty". These nutters are still in charge and even more astonishing have people who actually believe every thing they say and support every self promoting, almost messiah like, utterance they make. Meehh.

Do predict which of the list of EUSSR aims on the list provided that will no happen.

[jim360]

They were not presented as aims, but as certainties.

Just concede that you've been caught out either deliberately spreading propaganda or by falling for it yourself, and we can move on to more reasonable grounds. There is, I have no doubt, a sensible and coherent case to be made for leaving the EU. The content of the post on the last page, which is lie and falsehood from start to finish, is not it.

[Togo]

///Do predict which of the list of EUSSR aims on the list provided that will no happen. //

Answer that...….or are you admitting that you don't know what you are "voting" for?

[jim360]

The long-term aim of the EU is "ever closer union". But that only happens with mutual consent of the member states. Everything you posted was stated as a certainty, not as an aim, and was therefore misleading propaganda. Do everyone a favour, and concede that fact, and then I'm happy to resume a meaningful debate.

[EDDIE51]

I have always thought that the EU should be more like 'The United States of Europe' . We need MORE integration NOT less !
(People really should stop taking 'The Daily Wail' seriously ! )
Do you know The Daily Mail has a vocabulary (word) list? , it tells journalists what words they are allowed to use! It is based on the words that a 6 year old child would be expected to know.If a Mail journalist wants to use a word that is not on the list, they need permission from the editor.

[douglas9401]

"Do you know The Daily Mail has a vocabulary (word) list? , it tells journalists what words they are allowed to use! It is based on the words that a 6 year old child would be expected to know.If a Mail journalist wants to use a word that is not on the list, they need permission from the editor."


I don't believe you.

[Togo]

//I don't believe you. //

That won't work Douglas...…..you have to submit a ten page essay so that the "heads" can find a typo to dismiss your view out of hand. :))


P.S insert your own adjective for the word in commas.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//The long-term aim of the EU is "ever closer union"//

The aspirations of the oligarchy (with its stated contempt for national sovereignty and its tacit contempt for the opinion its native populations) have a way of finding themselves into law. And as the legislative process doesn't have a reverse gear (much like a ratchet - or my first Ford Zephy) every incremental attack on local freedoms becomes set in stone.

It would be a very simple step, with a plausible rational, to abolish the national veto, thus undermining Jim's "safeguard".

I can understand why "citizens of the world" like Jim (and Socrates, as I recall, back in the days of the world's first democracy) want a world order in which elites govern in the best interests of the less bright and keep the streets clean of horse manure like national pride, but I can't understand why separatist groups like the SNP who are rather hot on the national pride stuff endorse the federal agenda.

[Kromovaracun]

That isn't what the Frankfurt School is. You're making a fool of yourself. Stop copy-pasting made up conspiracy theories from the scummiest corners of the internet and pick up a book.

[jno]

great list, Togo. Got a link?

(to the original, not the Breitbart "summary")

[Atheist]

Togo. Do you ever have ideas of your own? You keep pasting long boring screeds, which I personally can't be bothered to read. Say something interesting or original.

[naomi24]

If you can’t be bothered to read them how do you know they’re boring?

[Togo]

Off to bed and read a bit before sleep. I have a song for you Ath. and a link for nono.

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2009/05/11/the-frankfurt-school-and-the-war-on-the-west/

[Atheist]

Togo. 22:07 Tue 22nd Jan 2019.
I hate to say it, but I've started to think that you're barking, mad if you believe that stuff.

[Atheist]

Touche, Naomi.

[Togo]

// They even listed them. Which of these has not been taken up by the pyramid scheme in a decades long campaign to subjugate millions of European people? //

Tell me again Ath…….which of the list has not been avidly followed by the EUSSR and it's acolytes? You can't can you. But you have the brass neck to question my sanity? I voted to leave. Did You?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Let's take the latest assault on common sense: your gender is something determined by you and is unrelated to biology.

When was the gender fluid movement started? Wasn't in the 1960s, was it? Or even the 1990s. It's been manufactured (where and by whom?) in the last decade. In such a short time this evil delusion has spread throughout the whole of academia and the educational establishment, is embraced by mainstream politicians and suppported by the media and the entertainment industry.

I think the speed with which such an absurd, but, worse, wicked idea has arisen and how it has spread so fast is a phenomenon which demands explanation.

How do you account for it, Kromo?

Same question to JNO.

[Kromovaracun]

//How do you account for it, Kromo? //

You're asking me how I account for an idea?

You could write a PhD thesis answering that question. Complicated societal phenomena like that aren't something I'm remotely equipped to explain.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//You could write a PhD thesis answering that question. Complicated societal phenomena like that aren't something I'm remotely equipped to explain//

Yoiu're very well equipped to reject other explanations, like a load of neo-Marxists in universities who hate Wetsern society are working out ways of subverting it by getting at kids in schools etc etc.

This may be a totally dotty conspiracy theory. It does, however, have something going for it: it can explain some of the facts.

Explanatory power is one of the tests of a good hypothesis, isn't it?