Corbyn Says Shamima Let Her Home

[fender62]

is this man insane, does he not care what the people want...or is he just rubbing up the tories.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6729677/Jeremy-Corbyn-says-Shamima-Begum-let-Britain.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

Not, of course, that Lebanon was always poor. It just, by accident or the will of God, became so.

[Togo]

//rather than being on autopilot churning out pharases //

Is that meant to be Pharisees? Or the juice talking again? Bless.

[fiction-factory]

Ha ha "bless". Another example

[Deskdiary]

The law does not allow the withdrawal of citizenship if that renders a person stateless - so IF she cannot claim Dutch or Bangladeshi citizenship, then it looks likes she's our problem.

I don't like it - she very clearly hates us and our way of life - but if that's the law I imagine there's sod all we can do about it.

What I really dislike are Corbyn's weasly words.

Stating she be given "the support that she needs" is playing down what this piece of detritus has done. She's not a single mother who can't pay her rent and therefore should be given 'the support that she needs', she's a terrorist's widow. She condoned the actions of ISIS and in my book that tacitly makes her a terrorist as well.

[spathiphyllum]

She was raped at 15 and radicallised by adults, at the age of 15.. shes been theough a lot it’s unfair to say it’s entirely her fault, she was a child victim of extremism

[Togo]

The children in Yorkshire were told by plod and their "social workers" that it was their own fault. Does radicalisation, exploitation, and sexual abuse only apply if you join a murderous cult?

[Deskdiary]

Spath - you've fell for the naive little girl act.

She was anything but - she knew exactly what she was doing, and at 15 she had the gumption and brains to make her way to the Middle East.

My 15 year old daughter would not have the first clue how to do this, so don't be gullible enough to fall for the act.

[Smowball]

I think she should be allowed home purely to give Alan Carr his teeth back.

[Prudie]

When was she raped at 15 Spath? Here? Rape is non-consensual, she went there specifically to be an ISIS bride, did she think that didn't include sex?

[Khandro]

^^ True, she wasn't raped she was if anything begging for it, and with a maniac she'd never met.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//She's not a single mother who can't pay her rent and therefore should be given 'the support that she needs'//

For all practical purposes she is[i a single mother, Desk Diary. What with her husband being dead or banged up or whatever.

When she returns (which I think is likely, given that her Bangladeshi citizenship - if it exists at all - will cease when she becomes twenty-one, thereby making her [i]constructively] stateless under Javeed's ruling) the relevant social service providers will ensure that she and her British baby get a house and all the necessary financial support such she can be successfully "rehabilitated".

This will make all the people who think that Ms Begum
is a victim very happy.

Creativer accountancy in the moral domain is such that the universal narrative now is that Ms Begum has been "groomed" and, therefore, just as much a "victim" as a similarly "groomed" twelve year girl in Rochdale who ends up being ***d by her seducer's cousins, uncles, mates and any horny Muslim up the road who's got a spare twenty.

There are a lot of people on AB, many of them women and all with extremely high moral pretensions and some of them bright, who can't see the obvious moral contradictions here.

[spathiphyllum]

"Rape is non-consensual, she went there specifically to be an ISIS bride, did she think that didn't include sex?"


Just because people are in a relationship / marriage doesn't mean you can take what you want when you want it. Also yes i heard she was raped at the age of 15.

[spathiphyllum]

"^^ True, she wasn't raped she was if anything begging for it, and with a maniac she'd never met."

How disgusting. You've no clue if that's true or not, and what you're doing is justifying rape if the victim seems like they're asking for it.

[douglas9401]

Maybe she, like others, has no clue about what happens in the real world.
She does give the impression of being a simpleton.

[spathiphyllum]

"My 15 year old daughter would not have the first clue how to do this, so don't be gullible enough to fall for the act."

Why would Shamia be any more capable than your own daughter? Exactly she's not. She was brainwashed by Islamic propaganda. This influenced her to make her decisions. I'm not saying i support her and we should welcome her with open arms. But i'm also not being a ignorant fool spouting my opinions on a situation that's actually rather deep and complex.

[spathiphyllum]

who TF does at 15.

[Spicerack]

spathiphyllum

//Just because people are in a relationship / marriage doesn't mean you can take what you want when you want it.//

Don't know much about Islam, do you Splat?

[douglas9401]

"But i'm also not being a ignorant fool spouting my opinions on a situation that's actually rather deep and complex."

We'll just let that one hang for a bit while we re-read previous comments.

[Spicerack]

Your heart must bleed for the Manchester bomber, splat.

[ludwig]

// She does give the impression of being a simpleton. //

True. She seems to have no idea about the seriousness of what she's done. We'll see what happens in the courts, but my guess is she'll end up back here.