Is John Cleese Correct?

[thesshhh]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9177324/monty-python-john-cleese-english-city/

[237SJ]

I do agree with him to a certain extent. I have just been in Sorrento for a week and that place is 100% Italian. But Sorrento doesn't have work and prospects for people who want to come from other parts of the world and make a life for themselves. London does and that is why the so called English culture (whatever that is) is not prevalent.

[Tilly2]

They still do afternoon tea at The Ritz. That's very English.

[237SJ]

^ Claridges is better :)

[Cloverjo]

I wonder if the people of the Caribbean island he lives on is bothered by it being ‘less Caribbean’ with him there.
Bloomin’ immigrants.
It only works one way, apparently.

[Tilly2]

Not tried Claridges, 237. :-)

[Hopkirk]

He has turned into a grumpy old man these days.

[237SJ]

I met him years ago. More unpredictable than grumpy

[Arksided]

Victor Meldrew type? I do like John Cleese but not seen anything lately... only just having read the article.

[jno]

so true, Cloverjo, all these anti-immigrant people taking themselves off to Barbados or Australia. No sense of irony.

[webbo3]

From 2012.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/census-reveals-white-britons-as-minority-in-capital-for-first-time-8405998.html

[237SJ]

^ You can Google all you like but but that won't give you an idea of how it is to live here (London)

[New Judge]

//You can`t really say that Oxford St represents London.//

Indeed not. But I could say the same of Ripple Road (Barking), Brent Cross Shopping Centre, Mile End Road or Shoreditch High Street.

[Baldric]

I avoid London as much as possible, just my annual check up at Guys and that's enough. When I went last year, going up in a fullish lift we stopped to pick up a few more, a Middle Eastern looking guy got in and stood on my feet, he was treated to a little Anglo Saxon and promptly started to lecture me on the correct way to speak English, he was lucky on two counts, Tash was with me and there was a lift full of witnesses. When we came out of the Clinic he was waiting in the foyer and started again, he was not so lucky that time but that's life.

[Baldric]

and yes I agree with John Cleese.

[237SJ]

Well all I can say is that I bring (on my aircraft) many, many people to London. They love it. I take them home again after they have had a great time. Thank goodness we aren't all completely negative

[New Judge]

//They love it. I take them home again...//

Alas those who live there, 237, cannot go "home" again as the cesspit that most of London has deteriorated into is home.

[Baldric]

Not negative at all 237.
We have a nice lifestyle on the Seafront on the edge of a half decent town which is improving.
Why would we want London?

[237SJ]

I doubt that you would. Just as I woudn`t want to go the to East coast of England

[Gromit]

He is probably correct but by the same token Paris is no longer French and Amsterdam no longer Dutch.

Large Cities in the West need a cheap workforce to make them function. Immigrant populations have replaced the indigenous people who have become more affluent and will not work so cheaply.

Coupled with the fact that global transport is relatively cheap and easy, and there is employment to be had, then they will keep coming. Just as well as we need them.

[retrocop]

If my memory is correct I believe that John Cleese did own and reside in a very expensive property in Holland Park. That is in West Kensington and adjacent to Notting Hill don't ya know? The same area where once a year the residents board up their property and depart their homes whilst some foreign carnival forces them out every August Bank Holiday. They return to find their property defiled and basement areas stinking of urine and full of human faeces.
Small wonder Cleese thinks as he does. I totally agree with his thoughts.