Uk Covid Response - As Seen By Greece.

[diddlydo]

Please take a look and think that Boris and Co are still great:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/06/ve-day-heroes-patriotic-multicultural-britain
I hope the link takes you to the article re Greece as the headline is somewhat misleading!

[iluvmargie]

15:57 Agree.

[jim360]

Further to my last post, the Greek government introduced measures at a time that corresponds proportionally to ten days earlier than the UK did.

Still no idea what ynnaf is on about, though. If anything I've published is demonstrably false I'd be happy to retract, but I am certainly not lying. If ynnaf wants to find links demonstrating that the Greeks are covering up a massive health disaster then I'll look into them.

[KARL]

The insistence on comparisons being invalid or even impossible is an interesting attempt to get away from the UK's poor showing. The openly expressed jingoism and prejudice stink. There may be slight inaccuracies somewhere and some have already needed to make abrupt adjustments to include known Covid 19 deaths which previously were ignored - conspicuous disorganisation. Certainly, not all figures quoted are significantly inaccurate, some are at most to the tiniest degree if at all - it has to be acknowledged that some countries (but actually not the UK) are very organised and good at seeing and accurately reporting everything up-to-date. The foaming at the mouth whenever anything but praise is expressed as comment on the UK is unbecoming - and let's just wait for when the UK actually has/does something that compares favourably with other countries, then there will be none of the ah, but. Hopefully it won't be a longish wait.

[jno]

so nobody's yet produced any evidence whatever to back up their claims that the Greeks are lying? How surprised am I.

[royfromaus]

Greece can now look forward to a summer tourist season beginning in July


Lol...so who has said that?

And who is Pavlos Pandelides?

[jim360]

A list of countries whose figures I certainly don't trust includes, but isn't necessarily limited to, Iran, China, North Korea, Brazil, and Russia. In a couple of cases this is because it's manifest nonsense: North Korea is still reporting exactly zero cases and deaths, for example.

Everywhere else, it isn't so much that that I don't trust the source but that the figures are likely to be an undercount to some degree or other. We've seen large spikes in death rates in some parts of Ecuador, for example, which can only be attributed to Covid-19, but the official death toll (based, perhaps, on confirmed positive cases only) is something like 10% of the likely actual.

[ynnafymmi]

@16.00.The Greeks have covered up quite a few things,Jim.Only 150 deaths from covid-19.

[iluvmargie]

Lying or not, I just don't care what they think. Let them get on with how they want to run things (and carry on dumping dogs in the hills without food and water for dedicated bands of animal lovers to try to find and help, and rounding up all the stray dogs, of which there are many, and poisoning them when the tourists go home, but I digress) and mind their own business about us!!

[jim360]

Find the evidence, ynnaf. I want to see it. I'm aware that the Greek record on, say, tax figures, is less than exemplary. This is human life we are talking about. What sources do you have that they have seen spikes in background mortality such that their figures are not even 1/30th of the actual total?

Also, for the record, I am not claiming that the c.150 deaths figure is perfectly accurate and can be 100% trusted. I'm just saying that you need to find 30 times as many deaths from somewhere, and as yet you have produced exactly nothing other than prejudice to support that.

[royfromaus]

This thread is *** ocks



Uk Covid Response - As Seen By some random bloke from Greece

[ynnafymmi]

@16.01.And no one has ever produced evidence that the world is not flat.A lot of people would agree that the Greeks are lying,a lot of people would say that the world is flat.Most people would go with the flat-worlders rather than the Greek Covid-19 liers.

[jim360]

Except they have produced such evidence, it isn't comparable, and... well, anyway. People can judge for themselves whether actual data or pure xenophobia is more reliable.

[naomi24]

Perhaps they’re another bunch who aren’t good at sums. I don’t see how anyone can honestly compare Greece to the UK. The whole population of Greece is about the same as the population of London alone - and most Greeks live in very rural areas. Density must be a contributing factor … and that can be taken in any way it suits.

[royfromaus]

But hey...that won't stop some.

[ynnafymmi]

@16.07.Margie ,we are among the minority on this site.Too much Brit-haters on this site..hate Britain..love the dole money.

[Togo]

//And who is Pavlos Pandelides?//

Sounds to me like the Greek, eek, version of our very own PP. It's all Greek to me anyway. :))

[Togo]

Perhaps their mortality rate is so low because, if the reports are true, they have been shooting illegal immigrants attempting to storm their borders. Do you think that we could get away with doing that?

[-SharonA-]

Have a look at this:

[ynnafymmi]

Aye,every country in Europe has been reporting thousands of deaths.Greece reports 150.Aye,right.Are you in Shanghai or St.Petersburg Jim?

[retrocop]

/Greece reports 150.Aye,right/.

Well that's 70 more than Russia have admitted to. :-(