So Is This The New Normal?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/53301318
Any police action against a non white is de facto racism?

[Ken4155]

A normal blood/urine test for a specific medical condition may not reveal the presence of drugs, but surely, the tests athletes have to undergo would? I do know of a few jockeys who have received bans for testing positive for cannabis. I am assuming that the 'tests' were not solely done to detect cannabis

[Cloverjo]

I don’t know any jockeys, but I have known a few dope heads. I can’t imagine that any jockey would smoke weed. Munchies would be a problem.

[Ken4155]

Jockeys (and horses) are tested regularly on a random basis, Cloverjo. Irish rider David Simmonson was suspended for 2 years in 2019 after traces of cannabis and cocaine were found in a random drug test. 2 Queensland riders were suspended in 2018 for same offence.

[Gromit]

Driving while drugged is an offence and the Police carry road side testing kit. Officers can use "drugalysers" to check for cannabis and cocaine. The testing kit uses a mouth swab to check for the presence of drugs and a blue line appears after eight minutes if the person has taken them. It also detects legal prescription drugs.

Williams and her driver boyfriend frequently asked to be tested several times early in their detention but no tests were done.

[dannyk13]

NJ
//It's not the job of police to treat people as innocent until proven otherwise.//
Agreed, but probable cause that an offence is being committed is their job.Is the fact that a Mercedes was being driven by a young black person sufficient.I don't think so.

[Peter Pedant]

they were driving erotically apparently

[Mamyalynne]

There's no answer to that Peter.

[Ellipsis]

> So Is This The New Normal?
> Any police action against a non white is de facto racism?

No, it's just something you made up.

[jourdain2]

About 20 years ago my now son-in-law was in his mid twenties and working in a bank in Leeds. He is a bit of a petrol-head and scrimped to own an up-market car.

He was in charge of locking-up the bank for a few weeks. One evening after he left he became aware of a large car following him. He speeded up, it followed. Alarmed, he tried to lose it, thinking a bank robbery was the motive. Eventually another car stopped him. It was the police thinking it was suspicious that such a young man was driving such a car. He proved his bona fides and they then tried to charge him for speeding (which they had caused). It was eventually thrown out of court when the bank weighed in.

He is very fair-skinned, blond and with blue eyes. Nothing to do with race at all. The police could be charged with stereotyping - but not racially. Some people are over-sensitive.

[jim360]

I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make -- or, perhaps, I'm not sure why you think that one personal anecdote is enough to prove or disprove anything about police attitudes.

[Ken4155]

PP; "They were driving erotically, apparently."
Surely not in front of the kids?

[iluvmargie]

Good point jourdain.

[naomi24]

I don’t understand how people get themselves into a situation where they scream at the police. If you’re stopped, surely you do as you're asked and conduct yourself reasonably. Anything else can’t help the situation.

[Mamyalynne]

Jourdain, perhaps after 15 stops your sensitivity increases, I do agree screaming is not the way but then no one has ever tried to remove me from a car whilst my baby is left in it.

[naomi24]

Why wouldn't you get out to speak to police if your baby was in the car, mamyalynne? I would. You're not going anywhere.

[iluvmargie]

Well if she behaved herself, the police would not have to remove her to deal with her. Not thinking of her baby at all.

[Mamyalynne]

That is not what I said.

I agree screaming in no help, I simply stated that this precise situation has not happened to me.

[iluvmargie]

Well, it's probably not happened to the majority of us to be fair!

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, So when you said //no one has ever tried to remove me from a car whilst my baby is left in it. // you didn't mean you wouldn't get out of the car? I don't understand why you said it then.

[naomi24]

I've been stopped by the police.