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Mozz, //Your Answer...by that logic, if people killed "because they are Muslims", then they'd all be doing it too.//
That isn’t MY logic. It’s pixie’s. //If people killed "because they are men", they would all be doing it.// You’re getting confused.
//Naomi, you seem to be suggesting now that if Islam is the problem, they would all be doing it.//
I’ve suggested nothing of the sort. See my answer to Mozz.
//just by showing they are more violent than the general population. Even then, there will be a lot more factors than just their religion.//
//I honestly don't know why you are unwilling just to show us the statistics,//
The only way to ascertain valid statistics is to compare one religious group to another - not one religion with the whole of the rest of the population. I suspect your reluctance to compare like with like is because you already know the answer.
So what are these other factors you mention?
Khandro, depending on someone else’s words again. Do YOU have something to say?
That isn’t MY logic. It’s pixie’s. //If people killed "because they are men", they would all be doing it.// You’re getting confused.
//Naomi, you seem to be suggesting now that if Islam is the problem, they would all be doing it.//
I’ve suggested nothing of the sort. See my answer to Mozz.
//just by showing they are more violent than the general population. Even then, there will be a lot more factors than just their religion.//
//I honestly don't know why you are unwilling just to show us the statistics,//
The only way to ascertain valid statistics is to compare one religious group to another - not one religion with the whole of the rest of the population. I suspect your reluctance to compare like with like is because you already know the answer.
So what are these other factors you mention?
Khandro, depending on someone else’s words again. Do YOU have something to say?
It's your logic, naomi. You are making things up again and trying to attribute thoughts to me that aren't mine.
No, the rational thing to do is not to compare different religious groups, to see whether Islam is worse. What if being religious is a factor in itself?
It makes more sense to compare muslim with non-muslim to get a valid comparison.
Tbh, I thought you would jump at the chance to prove yourself right with your knowledge, with actual facts... but I see we are still going round in circles.
No, the rational thing to do is not to compare different religious groups, to see whether Islam is worse. What if being religious is a factor in itself?
It makes more sense to compare muslim with non-muslim to get a valid comparison.
Tbh, I thought you would jump at the chance to prove yourself right with your knowledge, with actual facts... but I see we are still going round in circles.
Pixie, What on earth are you talking about? 'Slippy-slidey' (what a ridiculous expression!) is about right for you. You asked me for statistics comparing Islamic terrorism to acts of terrorism committed by the rest of the population. As far as I’m aware there are none - but if you know differently please enlighten me.
My question was //who are the main perpetrators of acts of terrorism - not just in this country but worldwide - in recent years? Islamic extremists - or the rest of the population?//
My question was //who are the main perpetrators of acts of terrorism - not just in this country but worldwide - in recent years? Islamic extremists - or the rest of the population?//
If I knew differently and had the facts, I would already have posted them. It's you who is claiming Islam causes violence, but are totally unable to back it up in any way. How can you constantly assert something as truth that you blatantly admit you don't know?
Trying to turn it round to me, because you can't answer, is very slippy slidey, but as I'm not claiming to know and you are- I'll leave it for you to post some actual information.
Otherwise, we are just wasting time... and it is boring. Genuinely, thanks for the conversation.... but there is obviously no provable basis in your views. So you are still trying to offload it to me.
So Roger, over and out from me :-)
Trying to turn it round to me, because you can't answer, is very slippy slidey, but as I'm not claiming to know and you are- I'll leave it for you to post some actual information.
Otherwise, we are just wasting time... and it is boring. Genuinely, thanks for the conversation.... but there is obviously no provable basis in your views. So you are still trying to offload it to me.
So Roger, over and out from me :-)
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