Transgender Weightlifter Lost...

[Spicerack]

Phew.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58054891

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // I would wager he has a Y chromosome = Geezer, end of. //

'Wager' away - but if you don;t know, and you don't, then that puts you firmly in the same camp as Naomi - offering your ignorant prejudices under an imagined sheen of 'information'.

That would make you similar in your outlook - who would have thought it?

Perhaps when you consider that thought, you might like to reconsider - I would if I were you, which fortunately, I'm not.

[naomi24]

I’d say that’s fortunate too, AH. On that we agree. :o)

[ToraToraTora]

Y chromosome = male, no amount of dressing up, drugs and surgery can change that. Sex cannot be changed. I am offering no prejudices just biological facts.
"Perhaps when you consider that thought, you might like to reconsider - I would if I were you, which fortunately, I'm not. " - now who's being ignorant?

[Peter Pedant]

andy - stop being beastly to Naomi, you - er beast !
I love her crushing one liners like "how you meet people like Madonna den [foo]?" - and er
I think the transgenders have hormone levels measured ( sort of "no testosterone" stuff)

Ormerod ( judge and doctor ) did it over in Corbett v Corbett in 1970
http://www.pfc.org.uk/caselaw/Corbett%20v%20Corbett.pdf

I wonder at: I am a weightlifter but a secret girlie oh and I still like weight lifting..... but it doesnt really frighten the horses

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // Y chromosome = male, no amount of dressing up, drugs and surgery can change that. Sex cannot be changed. I am offering no prejudices just biological facts. //

That is a fact.

But that's not what you offered.

You 'wagered' the existence of a chromosome, that's a bet, not a fact.

Offer it as a 'wager' and you get called out, offer it as a fact, with some evidence, and that's absolutely fine.

[andy-hughes]

Peter - // andy - stop being beastly to Naomi, you - er beast ! //

Non-bowlers off the green please ...

[Peter Pedant]

TTT Y chromosome jabba jabba blah blah - I cant be arrissed to copy and paste the rubbish he wrote

that is because havent heard of testicular feminisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Oh god this was around fifty years ago, lord love us

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // "Perhaps when you consider that thought, you might like to reconsider - I would if I were you, which fortunately, I'm not. " - now who's being ignorant? //

You are absolutely right, I allowed my annoyance with naomi to let me get carried away.

My comment was uncalled for, I would wish to withdraw it and offer a sincere apology.

[naomi24]

Haha! Annoyance is one word for it. So funny!! :o)

[Peter Pedant]

non bowlers - - AH
oh andy - how did you get those big barlz ?

bowls - bowling balls are particularly um large and heavy innit? perfectly fitted to a weightlifting thread

[ToraToraTora]

thanks Andy, accepted.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks Tora.

Onwards ...

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // Haha! Annoyance is one word for it. //

It is - the phrase I would have liked to use contravenes Site Rules!!!

[Togo]

Sigh ... everyone seems to have gone nuts.

[david small]

If it walks like a bloke, talks like a bloke, looks like a bloke, chances are it’s a bloke. I knew a bloke that loved to wear women’s clothing, he was still a bloke. this trans nonsense and identifying as rubbish is indicative of a broken and confused society.

[andy-hughes]

David - // I knew a bloke that loved to wear women’s clothing, he was still a bloke. this trans nonsense and identifying as rubbish is indicative of a broken and confused society. //

The fundamental and important difference between a transvestite and a transsexual has been explained previously - do check the dictionary or Google since you clearly do not know what that difference is.

[david small]

AH. Wind your neck in. I do know the difference between a transsexual and a transvestite. As I said, a confused and broken society. I also own the full set of The Oxford English Dictionary.

[andy-hughes]

David - // AH. Wind your neck in. I do know the difference between a transsexual and a transvestite. As I said, a confused and broken society. I also own the full set of The Oxford English Dictionary. //

Your post implies otherwise I would suggest - otherwise why bring in reference to your transvestite friend, when that is irrelevant to the discussion.

[tomus42]

Good, but what will the Olympics look like in 20 years I wonder. Transgenders routinely winning women's events, but strangely enough not men's probably.

[Mozz71]

Ironically Dave, I've also been friends for many years with a cross-dressing man. His friend accept that he has two separate identities identities, and treat him as either male or female as appropriate. It's respectful, and what friends do.