Prince Andrew (Enough Said)

[Bobbisox1]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-us-lawsuit-accuses-royal-of-sexually-abusing-virginia-giuffre-12377669

I’ve read the transcript but I’m not sure how anyone could be ‘forced’ to have sex at 17 yrs old unless they had a gun to her head, otherwise this would surely be rape wouldn’t it?
I’m no fan of PA, far from it but again just wondered how she was ‘forced’ to have sex with him and other prominent figures,and I’m not saying she’s to blame either but I would like to know

[Bobbisox1]

Sqad it’s getting that way

[Sqad]

bobbi.......I continue to ask myself, is AB worth the effort and I am increasingly answering myself........no it isn't.

[Bobbisox1]

Sqad;(

[Mamyalynne]

You wanted that precursor to a squabble to stay Bobbi??

Make your mind up.

[jno]

the claim is that she was under age. If that's so, "consent" doesn't matter.

[Bobbisox1]

What are you on about Mamya?

[Mamyalynne]

I have no clue whether the claims have any truth, I'll leave it to the lawyers.

[Bobbisox1]

Is my thread another shrug one Mamya?

[Mamyalynne]

The exchange above reads for all the world as if there is disgruntlement about the start of a row being removed.

If I am wrong, then I apologise.

[Mamyalynne]

No, it seems to captivate many and is in some ways more interesting than what a food blogger thinks.

[Bobbisox1]

I don’t think it had anything to do with this thread at all

[Sqad]

bobbi......give in, just agree, I have no idea to what mamya is referring.

[Mozz71]

If this happened in America, and if the age of consent in tha relevant state is 18, it doesn't matter whether she consented or not, it's sex with a "minor".

Serves him right for dealing with the likes of Jeffrey Epstein.

[Peter Pedant]

foo - can I be of help by threatening:
keep to the thread or else ! - - - puts on severe Ab Editor look (*)
( not really - just using AB speak. )

slightly more sensible comment - on BBC that is! - 1730
the beeb have come to their cake and ha'penny and realised that this is not a criminal trial so he cant be forced to do diddly squat.

Much less freedom allowed to the Giuffre lawyers to give unsupported opinions about all and sundry

(*) takes a breath and allows a little scene
to monarchise, be fear'ed and kill with looks
Richard II - somewhere

oh come on AB reader - wd you learn a bit of Shakey - or read this wise thread again?

[Peter Pedant]

// it doesn't matter whether she consented or not, it's sex with a "minor".//

yeah but no but - its not !
sozza mozza using c/p again - this is a capital offence today innit?
and if it were a Islamic paradise either she or he or both would be stoned ! ( but it is not that either)

and.... he couldnt be extradited as it is not a crime in England - sex wivvan 18 y old

[naomi24]

A lot of ‘ifs’ there mozz.

‘A precursor to an argument’ sounds awfully like threads closed for no discernible reason being said to be ‘at an end’ or words to that effect. Very odd.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // ‘A precursor to an argument’ sounds awfully like threads closed for no discernible reason being said to be ‘at an end’ or words to that effect. //

Threads are not closed for 'no reason'.

[naomi24]

Perhaps you missed them.

[Mamyalynne]

I'll tell you what I'll do seeing as my words have caused a kerfuffle - I'll contact the Editor and ask her if she thinks the derogatory remark to Bobbi and Bobbi's reply should be reinstated - that way the thread can be derailed as it always is when Gulliver has a pop.

I say to the Moderator who nipped it in the bud - well done.

[Bobbisox1]

Mamya the comment ( s) were between Sqad anc myself anc had nothing to do with this thread just something we both agreed on but I dare I say, not worth saying out loud as the inevitable would certainly happen , as for the exchange between Gulliver and myself, well that too was very tame !!!