You Know The Routine......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58405213

[Zacs-Master]

I asked you a question, N.

[Spicerack]

Mozz71 //Naomi, someone can agree in an ideology, no matter how extreme, without committing a crime. //

Wanna bet?

[naomi24]

Why me? I've already made it clear that I think they've turned crazy when they start supporting extremists. Mozz is the one waiting to spot a different moment.

[douglas9401]

It can be difficult to sort extremists from ordinary people who babble to an empty sky while dressed in their Sunday best.
They appear for all the world to be perfectly normal, balanced and sane, until you get really close anyway.

Maybe set about erasing ghost worship altogether.

[Peter Pedant]

same old blah-de-blah on AB - is that the routine TTT was referring to?

Radio 4 this am - anyone listen whilst doing their knitting and contributing to AB?

well my dears - the same old routine does not allow for Afghan fell so quickly as no one liked the Yanks and Brits and they all like the Taliban

and the Beeb hack was saying things like - really

and the few Muslims ( notoriously shy) who WOULD speak, said "we all believe the voice of the people should now be heard and they have the govt they want - give peace a chance!"

fluffy: really

M - yeah and if they wanna stone adulteresses and chop of hands more power to their dong!

Beeb hack squeals in a most un-marxist fashion.

Lucky we no longer have an Indian EMpire innit?

[andy-hughes]

Stickybottle - //
The standpoint of andy hughes will ensure that terrorist actions continue //

That does rather empower me doesn't it - I decide the 'standpoint' and the rest of the world falls in with it.

I think that's ridiculous, and if you think about it, I am sure you will think so as well, and maybe regret posting it.

// Or would you rather see more attacks like at Nice ? //

I'm not going to dignify that with a response, and once again, when you have calmed down, you may see the utter stupidity of that observation as well, and similarly feel foolish for posting it.


// More pie in the sky viewpoints from pinko liberal dinosaurs //

That's the difference between us stickybottle - I am able to contribute to an exchange of views, and accept that someone sees the issue differently from me, and discuss it with them, but without the need to be rude to them, which is immature and does nothing to assist me in accepting your viewpoint as balanced and thought out.

[Peter Pedant]

// Maybe set about erasing ghost worship altogether.//

foo ! anglo-saxon ghost worship ( valhalla and all that) may have one fo the reasons why it was so easy to convert the English
( Valhalla goes to flappy flappy more fun and er less sex)

[Peter Pedant]

I must NOT try to take these threads seriously and give historial parallels which are far beyond the ken of the average church going Aber

[Peter Pedant]

// That does rather empower me doesn't it //
erm in the same way that Violent Violet Kray was empowered by the activities of her sons....

really I must try not take these threads seriously .....

[Zacs-Master]

'Why me? I've already made it clear that I think they've turned crazy when they start supporting extremists'

So we're back to square one then. Standard.

[Untitled]

“ Perhaps it’s time the west stopped be quite so noble.”

That would mean the west behaving less like the west… (if you believe in western values like rule of law etc.)

If he has been deported then he would likely have just killed people in his home country…

[naomi24]

Untitled, //If he has been deported then he would likely have just killed people in his home country… //

And ....

Unless you have a preference as to whom he targeted, rather than burdening his host country with the high cost of his obsession, including the personal cost of injury and possible death to its inhabitants, had he been deported immediately his own government would have been responsible for dealing with him. I see nothing at all wrong with that. Why anyone argues a case for people like him being anywhere other than in their own country is quite beyond me. Who would want him in their country?

[Untitled]

And... the problem would not be solved by deporting him, because he would just kill people in his country of origin.

[naomi24]

You’ve already said that. Have you thought no further about it?

[Untitled]

Immediately deporting him would not have saved any more lives than surveilling him.

[Stickybottle]

Untitled
And... the problem would not be solved by deporting him, because he would just kill people in his country of origin

Let their own country deal with them
in such future instances
Western democracies do not need to import such rubbish and should not have to put up with it
I imagine the relatives of those injured would prefer he stayed in his own country

[Untitled]

Terrorism is a global problem and requires governments to co-operate to fight it… you can’t just shift every terrorist you can to somewhere else in the hope that someone else will deal with it… deporting him from NZ would have just meant death in Sri Lanka, i.e. no progress, no solution.

[royfromaus]

You have a better solution?

[Untitled]

I think the NZ authorities did everything they could.

[royfromaus]

Clearly, they did not.