Do You Think There Will Be Another Lockdown?

[gordiescotland1]

Hi there
Do you think there will be another lockdown this winter. I am in Scotland. I will be devastated if there is. I have organised a 50th Birthday party for myself early January. I see so many people not wearing masks on public transport or shops and a lot of unvaccinated people. It really infuriates me. I will have had booster by this time tomorrow

[bookbinder]

https://inews.co.uk/news/lockdown-another-winter-will-uk-government-plan-rise-covid-cases-restrictions-explained-1222039

[jno]

I think Scotland's been more cautious than England in lifting restrictions, hasn't it?

[Toorak]

That link applies to England, not Scotland which is taking a different approach.

John Swinney has said that further restrictions might be required but I don’t think they extend to another lockdown yet.

[maggiebee]

Find the Covid numbers in Scotland quite alarming, but so far haven't heard anything about a lockdown.

[maggiebee]

Scottish numbers today.

Scottish numbers: 12 November 2021

3,349 new cases of COVID-19 reported
36,048 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results
9.8% of these were positive
17 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive
55 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
759 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19
4,325,523 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,922,893 have received their second dose

[barnaclebill58]

Muzzles really don't work https://www.justfacts.com/news_face_masks_deadly_falsehoods so don't get infuriated by that.
How can you tell unvaccinated from vaccinated by looking at them and in any case it doesn't stop people being infected or passing it on, so get infuriated by that either.
Scotland has far more restrictions than England as wee Jimmy seems to love controlling people so there may well be one in Scotland. Why not have it in England?

[gordiescotland1]

I absolutely hate the SNP our leader is a narcissistic glory grabber whose only interests are independence at any cost and controlling the sheep

[dave50]

Not for me there won't be.

[bobbinwales]

Wont be your choice thou dave50. Hopefully most will be sensible, vax hesistant ones will get jabbed and only a very modest increase in restrictions is needed over winter when covid and flu bite

[ToraToraTora]

no, all the figures are falling. The vaccine is doing its job.

[emmie]

i damn well hope not, i have plans and they aren't going to stop me this time.

[ToraToraTora]

geordie, I feel your pain, Scotland is being run by an obsessive extremist. That's never good.

[Khandro]

No, there won't be a lockdown Johnson knows his popularity is going south enough as it is.

Also it doesn't really work, as the latest figures from Sweden show:


https://unherd.com/2021/11/how-sweden-swerved-covid-disaster/

[bobbinwales]

barnaclebill thats about as reliable as looking at some strangers youtube channel.
Why would that be more reliable than a proper scientific study.
eg https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
I never hear of doctors or nurses not wearing them and tellling there bosses thee a waste of time.
Why would Whitty, Van tam etc lie about it. Why were masks used in USa for flu 100 years ago. Why do Far East wear them regularly. Why in Spain Cyprus etc does everyone comply father than poitnting to unreliable evidence or just being 'look at me '/bolshy. Even if there only 50% effective or 30% effective its worth it.

[bobbinwales]

khandros at it now. Swedens a lot worse than it expected. Most countrys are seeing the need to tighten up altho usually where vax rates are lower. . Hopefull are vaccine rates will reduce the need for too much tightening

[Khandro]

bobinwales; //. Swedens a lot worse than it expected.//

You obviously haven't bothered to read the article, it is precisely its point that the predictions were wrong, & the Swedish stats are better then those of many other countries.

quote; ....At the time of writing, more than 50 countries have a higher death rate [than Sweden]. If you measure excess mortality for the whole of 2020, Sweden (according to Eurostat) will end up in 21st place out of 31 European countries. If Sweden was a part of the US, its death rate would rank number 43 of the 50 states.... unquote

[Redhelen72]

Yes there will be another lockdown of some sort this winter

[ToraToraTora]

on what basis Helen? cases, deaths and hospitalisations have all peaked and are on the way down.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Stickybottle]

I would wait and see what happens in the next fortnight
Matters will change once the weather becomes colder

[ichkeria]

I don't believe there will.
Interestingly, although the PM is talking up the risks, some scientific opinion advises that we are actually ahead of the curve as far as the rest of Europe is concerned: according to them, they are experiencing the increases we have already had, plus our vaccination rates are higher (now because of a lack of take-up abroad rather than because their programmes are lagging any more).
The other issue is will other "variants of concern" arise from the rise on cases and again the general opinion is that that is less likely as the virus stabilises. But who knows, really.
Another lockdown would be very hard to justify I think. There'd have to be a new serious variant probably: we are in a much better place than this time last year.