Has H R H Got A Get Out Of Jail Free Card

[Stickybottle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59857168

I wonder if he has rediscovered the ability to sweat ?
No doubt he is !

[davebro]

Apparently Ms Giuffre got $millions by suing Maxwell for calling her a liar - she's either well off or a prolific spender.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // That’s handy. I wonder which is paramount? //

We cross-posted, but to underline my point - and hers - the two are the same thing.

Achieving financial damages for being wronged is absolutely acceptable in the culture of the US, it is here in Britain where anyone seeking their day in court, and financial reparation, is deemed as much of an undesirable as the criminal who has been convicted of grievous harm against them.

[andy-hughes]

davebro - // Apparently Ms Giuffre got $millions by suing Maxwell for calling her a liar - she's either well off or a prolific spender. //

The Non-disclosure Agreement paid her half a million dollars.

That's either peanuts for an exploited and abused young woman, or a decent payoff for a gold-digger, depending on your position.

[naomi24]

No idea why you’re telling me that, AH, but I read what you said the first time.

[Peter Pedant]

lets us get back to the subject - that is not AH readers !

BBC hedging - Prince Ange ruined all the same.
This dog wont hunt here
and there is sticking over - this an agreement between two people and cant be used against others.....

so why then include all the schtick about "other people" in the agreement.

very pale allusion to - "things are so different over there and are done so differently" (that it may not be justice as we know it)

[Peter Pedant]

Andy - Naomi really is making you sweat over this !
( thanks to Mozza last evg)

[Ellipsis]

This article is chock full of reasons why the judge wouldn't throw the case out, with very few reasons why he might ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59865102

[davebro]

AH //The Non-disclosure Agreement paid her half a million dollars.
That's either peanuts for an exploited and abused young woman, or a decent payoff for a gold-digger, depending on your position.//

Maxwell called her a liar & Giuffre sued her for libel - she got an even bigger payout for that.

[mushroom25]

as the judge ponders a decision, the papers are saying Prince Andrew has been left sweating.....

oh, wait......

[Khandro]

Left & right, prosecution, defence, journalists & the press, all say in one voice, please, please, let this continue; money, money, money.... that's what we want.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // No idea why you’re telling me that, AH, but I read what you said the first time. //

Because you asked a question - so I answered it.

Someone should start a website where you can ask questions and people can offer answers.

What would they call it ....

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // Left & right, prosecution, defence, journalists & the press, all say in one voice, please, please, let this continue; money, money, money.... that's what we want. //

Of course they do - that's how they all make their living, what else would you expect them to say?

[naomi24]

AH, you don’t know the answer to my question. You just think you do.

[Khandro]

AH //Of course they do - that's how they all make their living, what else would you expect them to say?//

So you finally drop the huffing & puffing on morality & accept that this whole unseemly matter is all about nothing but money?

[davebro]

Presumably once these women/girls got past Epstein's "use by" date they were discarded. And as the saying goes - Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[andy-hughes]

That's not what I said.

Your rudeness aside, you referred to everyone who has a professional interest, because it is their profession, except the lady at the centre of the whole thing.

If she was doing this for money, she could have already made it selling her story many times, and writing her autobiography.

[naomi24]

//If she was doing this for money, she could have already made it selling her story many times, and writing her autobiography. //

No one with any sense would do that without the evidence - and the ability - to support their claims - which is probably why she hasn't done it.

[dannyk13]

People in the know in America are saying that the Judge deciding whether Andrew should stand trial will come down an the side of the prosecutors.Not looking good for Andy.

[Khandro]

danny, the Yanks love show-business, & this is first class, for the establishment left this is a gift that keeps on giving; English royalty dragged through their own sordid dirt.