Do We Have An Endless Supply

[sandra4444]

Of cotton wool to keep wrapping people up in?
I can remember back in the 50/60s when my family struggled to pay fuel /food / rent bills, it really is nothing new, but you had to stand on your own two feet. If you didn't have the money you went without, or paid when you could, little at a time.

It now seems that every little problem families have they go screaming for handouts. How long can this carry on, and should it carry on?
In my view its teaching people nothing, you won't help anyone by keep on propping them up.

In another 5 months or so you will find some complaining that their kids will have no Christmas presents. Will Sunak come up with a giveaway for that also. :)

[jennyjoan]

It would take a helluva lot of cottonwool to keep me warm with the size of me

[gness]

Anyone wondering why we are living in a world which is becoming more unkind and cruel by the day only needs to look at some of the replies on this thread.

[sandra4444]

Pasta you are using " suffering" again. You have still not pointed out me using that yet. That's the main problem with many in this country, they don't know the difference between suffering and hardship, you seem to be one of them.

[10ClarionSt]

Sandra is partly correct. Most of us will remember the days of our childhood back in the 1950's and the years of post war austerity, where lots of people were still living in slums, poverty, and war damaged towns and cities. Hardly any help was available from the state and parents struggled really hard to raise their families in those circumstances.

However, the circumstances now are very different and the reasons for those circumstances are different too. The ciricumstances now have been brought about by this governments' shambolic handling of the pandemic and it's indifference to the profiteering of energy and fuel companies.

Since the 1950s', successive governments have tried to help deprived families, not exacerbate the deprivation with ineptitude.

We like to think we are a caring society, don't we? Well, are we? You dig out the overcoats Sandra whilst you watch families going without or only having a little. Would that give you some satisfaction? Seems to me like it would.

[davebro]

I agree that (some) folks have become too reliant on handouts for food, fuel, etc. when they still expect to able to spend on cars/mobile phones/widescreen TVs/broadband & Netflix/computer games/OTT Xmas toys etc.

Having said that how far back is it OK to go? There was austerity during & after the war and we had to make do, but going further back there were Victorian workhouses for those who could not or would provide for themselves. The country as a whole has got far richer so we do what can be afforded.

[sadielady]

sandra4444 will you be accepting the 'handout' or will you be returning it?

[steg]

Aye the poverty and slums of the 50’s and 60’s… gave us beatniks and hippies … braw…
canae get tougher than them ;)

[pastafreak]

Oh sorry...replace suffering with your term...hardship.
Silly me.

[Hopkirk]

The problems have NOT been caused by the government's "shambolic handling of the pandemic" Clarion.

[gness]

Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages :

Hardship

noun

Severe suffering or privation.

Perhaps before nitpicking, some people should consult a dictionary, Sandra (at 13:22)

[pastafreak]

So...hardship is a more intense form of suffering. Must remember that!

[10ClarionSt]

Hopkirk @ 13.42:

//The problems have NOT been caused by the government's "shambolic handling of the pandemic"//

Yes they have. The govt and the so-called medical experts didnt have a clue what to do, so they shut down the country, told everyone to get a wash, keep away from each other and wear a mask. It started right there, Hopkirk. Ipso fatso.

[dannyk13]

fatso?

[10ClarionSt]

Oui, oui! Mangetout, Danny! Mangetout!

[TantP]

Pasta, there is nothing nutritionally wrong with that spaghetti meal. Carbs from the spaghetti, protein from the cheese and veggies in the pasta sauce. Far healthier than a big mac with fries.

I have a lot more recipes to feed 6 for well under a fiver if you are interested. Just little things like adding lentils to a cottage pie to eak out the mince helps . Most supermarkets sell chicken thighs at around £1.99 a kilo, so home made curry and rice for 6 for under a fiver, even if you buy the curry sauce ( 99p from Aldi including the sauce and separate spice powder).

Education is the key. Children used to be taught how to cook, now its called Home Economics and a GCSE choice. Cooking should be mandatory on the curriculum up to year 11, as should budgeting.

[woofgang]

lets bring back slum landlords while we are at it!

[Redhelen72]

Unfortunately woof some of those have never gone away!

[TantP]

I think you will find slum landlords are on the increase, and they will probably do even less for their Tenants now the cost of maintaining a property has risen so much.

[pastafreak]

Tantp...I spent 12 years cooking in a homeless drop in...I think I know a bit about nutrition,stretching ingredients and what fills bellies.

[Redhelen72]

Pasta - nothing and noone could make my landlord do the fixes that were due on our old house!
a massive leave left us without heating upstairs for 18 months! and roof leak ignored for 5 years! boiler not service for 3 years!
no they have gone nowhere!