This Makes Grim Reading.

[youngmafbog]

Why won't our Police look into this? It is not acceptable to bring these backward practices here and not expect repercussions. We do not allow our women to be beaten and they are equals with men. If these people dont like our way of like why dont they push off to somewhere who does - not that I think these practices are acceptable anywhere

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10907429/Her-sisters-murder-Britains-notorious-honour-killing-BEKHAL-MAHMOD-tells-fled.html

[-SharonA-]

Harrowing reading.

[Bobbisox1]

Sadly the police find out after the gruesome practice has been carried out

[Spicerack]

I'm sure everyone agrees, ymb.

[Ken4155]

Bobbisox; "Sadly the police find out after the gruesome practice has been carried out." Maybe so in most cases but this young woman, Banaz, visited the police station 5 times in the 14 weeks before her death and even gave the police the names of those who would later murder her. I hope some of those who took no action have tremendous difficulty sleeping!
Forced marriages may be a way of life for some nationalities but, as YMB says, people who settle in this country must abide by our laws. Or get shipped back to wherever they originated.

[Prudie]

I fear the police turn a blind eye in case they are accused of racism. You can't blame them as they most likely would be, including by several AB users. In fact I expect someone to post a link to a white woman murdèred by a white family member as though that excuses it all.

[Bobbisox1]

Byes indeed Ken, poor woman and all those young girls gone before, shame on those that ignored them , they’ve got blood on their own hands

[pixie374]

//We do not allow our women to be beaten and they are equals with men. //

I hope that is full-on irony! My view, is "pushing off" elsewhere, only puts the same problem, in another place. You almost seem to be claiming that control, inequality and violence are about different cultures, it is actually more to do with different sexes.
This hypocrisy and "not me" thinking gets us nowhere.
Look for the right causes, then- there might be some hope.

[ToraToraTora]

plod are terrified of being labelled Islamophobic, so TROP barbarism is allowed to continue, end of.

[pixie374]

I can see why you two get confused with each other, sometimes...

[ToraToraTora]

pixie: "You almost seem to be claiming that control, inequality and violence are about different cultures, it is actually more to do with different sexes. " - still shovelling that deluded shee ite pixie. How many non Troppers do you see murdering and beating their daughters because they won't play ball with ancient barbaric practices?

[pixie374]

Murdering and beating? How many women, ttt? It isn't me, who is deluded about the causes.

[pixie374]

Not deluded, sorry. I am sure you are well aware of facts. Denial, might be fairer.

[ToraToraTora]

pixie, muslim daughters are regularly murdered, they call them "honour killings" - surely you have heard.

[pixie374]

Ttt, don't patronise me. I am referring to control, inequality and violence- as you can see. Let's not pretend that we aren't the same here, with different methods- and it is a "culture" issue. Firstly, and I know you know this, it is a "male issue". Like it or not, but you usually are honest at least.

[ToraToraTora]

pixie: how many honour killings/beatings have there been in non muslim families? It's a barbaric ancient religion thing often condoned by the women in the family. It's not a male thing.

[pixie374]

"Condoned" with no choice. Grow up. I know you are trying to make it "specific" to Muslims, by careful wording and declining to address my actual points.Denial...

[pixie374]

I do agree that we give their specific violence a different name, if that's what you mean.

[Spicerack]

.............................almost
Spicerack //I'm sure^everyone agrees, ymb.//

fifm.

[ToraToraTora]

pixie; "I know you are trying to make it "specific" to Muslims, by careful wording and declining to address my actual points.Denial..." - It muslims isn't it? Find me some examples of non muslim "honour killings". What "actual points" have I not addressed?

[pixie374]

Muslim women, children, females, elderly, babies.... are generally not the problem, ttt. You are an intelligent man. In all cultures and religions (and feel free to look it up if it helps)... the biggest factor, is never cultures or religion- it is sex. Unless people are willing to look at the actual reasons, causes etc.... you are just making noise.