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gulliver1 | 08:21 Tue 27th Sep 2022 | News
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28% 45%
-4 +5 .......Oh Dear ,Oh Dear
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The only people in any number who want Corbyn back are Tories :-)
The link doesn't work naomi, & I don't normally read the Guardian, but just for you, I might :0)
the tories predicted a collapse in sterling and a recession if jeremy corbyn became prime minister but they’ve managed to deliver that anyway…. the tory parts of the electorate must be wondering what on earth they voted for.
Khandro
// The link doesn't work naomi, //

That is because the AB swear filter has wrecked it. You need to change *** to
They said Labour would raid the Magic Money Tree if they were elected. They have delivered that one too.
if we were going to borrow an additional 70 billion anyway then i would much rather it be invested than see it peed up the wall on tax cuts
"Tory" Tory voters allegedly thought Johnson wasn't really "one of them" so this is an attempt to win them back.
Naturally at the expense of the voters who were attracted to him from Labour.
Now both Johnson and Corbyn, the main factors behind the Conservatives' advance into traditional Labour territory, have departed the scene, it doesn't look good for their prospects of keeping many of those voters.
Liz Truss I have to say does appear like a car crash waiting to happen, and so does her Chancellor
Maybe I will be proved wrong ...


“ Now both Johnson and Corbyn, the main factors behind the Conservatives' advance into traditional Labour territory, have departed the scene, it doesn't look good for their prospects of keeping many of those voters. ”

labour has also been making gains in some very unusual places for them both since the 2019 election and in subsequent by elections… i do wonder if they might advance in some traditional tory areas especially as tory support has collapsed among young and middle-aged people
Naomi: that story is from 2019.
Oddly of course Corbyn was the reason Labour made a few gains in Tory areas in 2017!

Recent by-elections would suggest people in traditional Tory areas go for the Lib Dems not Labour, but those were in the shires.
It is still looking hard for Laboyr to win a majority next time, but not impossible. Many Tories fear that a coalition of labour and the lib dems might lead to electoral reform that might keeo them out of power indefinitely,
It would appear that the Yanks concur, Ichkeria.

//Former US Treasury Secretary says sterling could go below dollar
Former US treasury secretary Lawrence Summers has blasted the economic policies being adopted Prime Minister Liz Truss, saying they’re creating the circumstances for the pound to sink past parity with the US dollar.
In a series of tweets he compared the UK to "developing countries" and says the government has been "utterly irresponsible".
"My guess is that pound will find its way below parity with both the dollar and euro," he wrote.
He also predicted that interest rates could go above 7%.//
“ Many Tories fear that a coalition of labour and the lib dems might lead to electoral reform that might keeo them out of power indefinitely”

don’t threaten me with a good time! :)
further to thecorbyloon’s point about labour needing scotland for a majority how would the parliamentary maths be different if scotland were to secede? What would be the minimum number of seats for a majority?
The LibDems have a better chance of winning in some Tory seats. They captured Chesham, Tiverton and North Shropshire. A pre election pact between Labour and the LibDems to not split the vote in close seats, might be astute for the good of the country.
Ichkeria
//It is still looking hard for Laboyr to win a majority next time, but not impossible. Many Tories fear that a coalition of labour and the lib dems might lead to electoral reform that might keeo them out of power indefinitely//

Yet the polls, in tandem with the reckless and obviously selfish actions of this government prove otherwise.
On present course it’s difficult to see how the Tories could keep even half of their seats?
Look at the recent by and council elections, they must at least have given some indication?
Since then we’ve had the VONC, Partygate report and Pincher.
Look at the utter gruel we’re currently being served up as a government and tell me where they’ll maintain their seats, even more so in light of Friday’s Fiscal Farce?
The public have had a bellyful and winter hasn’t even kicked in yet.
If the conference goes as well for Labour as it appears to be atm they have every right to be confident, Truss is doing their job for them.
Ich, //Naomi: that story is from 2019. //

I know. It's in response to Khandro's question and is from when the LibDems launched their anti-democracy slogan.
Naomi: Sorry.
I meant to address that to you, paigntonian - not ich. Sorry ich.
naomi24
//I know. It's in response to Khandro's question and is from when the LibDems launched their anti-democracy slogan.//

Ironically being bandied about by the Truss government as we speak.

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