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ynnafymmi | 16:40 Sat 08th Apr 2023 | News
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It is now 10 years since Thatcher died.She was enabled into power by the SNP back in 1979.I wonder if any of the SNPers on here now regret their choice?
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Without a single shadow of a doubt, easily the best PM ever. The way she turned this country around was utterly masterful, and we will forever be in her debt for doing so. She was brilliant.
21:12 Sat 08th Apr 2023
I answered your previous question and agreed that the SNP voted with the Tories against the Labour government.

Are you ignoring my question or can you not bring yourself to answer, "Yes"?
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The answer is yes,TCL,however the SNP is still the biggest Brexiteer party in Scotland.English Tories in England,Scottish SNPers in Scotland.Brexiteers both.
You'll not be claiming in the future that Brexit was the fault of the SNP then?
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@19.36.Do you also agree that the SNP enabled Thatcher into power.That Thatcherism is/was basically a SNP construction?
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@19.43.I certainly will.English Tories and Scottish SNPers.The two main Brexiteer parties in the UK.
//on the 1979 no-confidence vote on Jim Callaghans government,did the SNP vote alongside Thatcher and her fascist reactionaries or did they align themselves with the socialism of Callaghans government"?//
Two things stand out from the above. (1) You keep on asking a question to which the answer is a matter of public record (and you have already been given the same answer at least twice on here). (2) You’ve no idea of the definition of “fascist” is, let alone “fascist reactionaries.”

//Might have done,TCL.Considering the SNP were going on about how all the SNP were against Brexit.Now answer my question above.//

There is no “might” about it. Corby has demonstrated at least three times on AB (and I believe I did once) that if all the SNP supporters who you say voted to Leave voted instead to Remain the result of the referendum would still have been to leave the EU.

I really don’t know where you are going with this. The SNP MPs voting with the motion of No Confidence in 1979 hardly changed the course of UK history. At best they delayed it for six months. In any case that was over forty years ago. In more recent times the SNP voters who voted to leave similarly did not change the course of history.

//@19.36.Do you also agree that the SNP enabled Thatcher into power.That Thatcherism is/was basically a SNP construction?//

Don’t be ridiculous. Mrs Thatcher would have come to power with or without the SNP. She would have come to power even if the SNP had not existed. All they did at best (and that is arguable) is delayed it by a few months.

//@19.43.I certainly will.English Tories and Scottish SNPers.The two main Brexiteer parties in the UK.//

The people to “blame” for Brexit are those who voted for it and it has been demonstrated to you that they were not split along party lines. You began your question by highlighting that Mrs Thatcher died ten years ago. Perhaps more relevant Is that she left office 32 years ago. But more important even than that (certainly as far as your question goes) is that the SNP had no influence in her coming to power, little or no influence over her leaving office and little or no influence over the result of the referendum. You may see SNP supporters as hypocrites firstly for voting with Mrs Thatcher in 1979 and then moaning about her for the next twelve years (and beyond, as all Thatcher-haters seem to do) and then for voting to leave the EU and then moaning about that. But so what? You seem to have become almost obsessive about it. Time to move on, methinks.
You're claiming still that SNP voters voting, "Leave", resulted in Brexit?
NJ, I was intending to respond to the "Thatcherism is/was basically a SNP construction?" post but I was going over my calculations for the 29% figure.

Your response is welcomed since mines would have been more than a wee bit too abrupt.
What a funny thread...two English defending the SNP against a Scotsman.
//What a funny thread...two English defending the SNP against a Scotsman.//

More like two realists trying to point out a few facts to a fantasist, roy.
To avoid any confusion...JimF and TCL are the Englishmen I'm talking about.
Without a single shadow of a doubt, easily the best PM ever.

The way she turned this country around was utterly masterful, and we will forever be in her debt for doing so.

She was brilliant.
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Aided and abetted by the numpties in the SNP,DD.
22:12, bang DD, cometh the hour cometh the TGL!
YNNAFYMMI, I think you're needing new material...
"The people to “blame” for Brexit are those who voted for it"

Surely, the blame for Brexit is the EU itself?
//Surely, the blame for Brexit is the EU itself?//

Yes - and we will be forever in their debt! Hm.
I'm not, are you?
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@21.19.A fantasist,NJ?Really?I just pointed out that the SNP voted alongside the Tories in the 1979 no-confidence vote.Are you disputing that fact or am i just fantasizing that fact?
Or maybe it was the tories what sided with the snp???
But she'd of got in anyway whether labour won or lost that vote. It was there dying days of goverment I remember well... just brought forward rhe inevitable by a few months

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