Finally Some Common Sense

[youngmafbog]

Single-sex schools will be able to reject transgender pupils and teachers can refuse to call children by their preferred pronouns under new Government guidelines

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11983441/Single-sex-schools-able-reject-transgender-pupils-new-Government-guidelines.html

[naomi24]

Good.

[murraymints]

Hallelujah

[klazomaniac]

Good !

[Gromit]

The Government continue to target young people. Meanwhile the economy and cost of living crisis and strikes affects millions, and the Government are impotent.

[sandyRoe]

Where are these troubled young people to be educated?

[naomi24]

In co-educational schools.

[sandyRoe]

A young male person who came to identify as female might not feel at ease in a co-educational school.
Has this plan been fully thought through?

[MissTerious2]

Good. As Naomi says they can still go to coed schools. My son went to a state coed boarding school. I wonder how the dorms and loos would havebeen sorted out if there were transgender pupils!?

[MissTerious2]

Sandy ,would you expect special schools to beopened or the goverment to supply home tutors. Parents would have to sort it out.

[youngmafbog]

//A young male person who came to identify as female might not feel at ease in a co-educational school.
Has this plan been fully thought through?//

And a young female may not feel at ease with someone 'identifying' as a female, have you thought this through or dont you care about the majority of women (& men)?

A Co-ed should be perfect for them.

[naomi24]

//A young male person who came to identify as female might not feel at ease in a co-educational school. //

What about all the young girls who might not feel at ease sharing facilities with a boy identifying as female? I don't really know why I'm asking you, sandyRoe. I suspect you have your wooden spoon out again - but it's a topic of conversation I suppose. ;o)

[sandyRoe]

I believe in New York there are some schools where trans and gay kids can be educated without suffering bullying because of their sexuality.
That could be a good thing.

[MissTerious2]

There arecschools for pupils with special education needs and they do have special needs. There are lots of reasons for kids having special needs. You cant expect a special school for all the different reasons.

[sandyRoe]

Naomi,
I like to think there's a nugget of truth and sincerity in most of what I post.
My wooden spoon is seldom used except to stir frying vegetables. Truly.

[naomi24]

Haaa! Right .....

[sandyRoe]

*. Except when^

[naomi24]

:o)

[ClareTG0ld]

Conversely, does a young trans boy (ie, an FTM trans person) belong in an all-girls' school?

I don't see that this is anything other than reactionary -- and not well thought-through at that. The first point is that it frames all transgender people, young or otherwise, as potential threats, in a way that is grossly unfair and counterproductive. The second point is that, if the intent is ultimately to "discourage" people from being trans, it doesn't even achieve that. Adversarial attitudes tend only to drive people even deeper into whatever is prompting that reaction. The better thing to do is to provide a safe, open environment to explore these thoughts and feelings, and let people come to the conclusion themselves that it was, or wasn't, after all who they were.

If all we're doing is looking for ways to isolate, reject, ostracise these young kids, it's inevitably going to cause damage. Clearly you have to consider the majority too, but that can be done without penalising the minority.

This is Section 28 all over again, just with a different target. It was wrong then; it is wrong now.

[naomi24]

//if the intent is ultimately to "discourage" people from being trans, //

I doubt that thought has crossed anyone's mind - apart from yours.

[youngmafbog]

//if the intent is ultimately to "discourage" people from being trans, //

Rot.

It is to protect the majority. Women should not have penis's in their changing rooms, neither should they be competing against them and all the myriad of issues these few trans activists have caused.

Being trans is not new, many have managed perfectly and still do and would prefer the fuss to die down. The fuss often caused by people who are not trans but taking offence on their behalf.