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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I don't know what your problem is? People made a complaint, an inquiry was taken place, a report was delivered and Raab resigned.
What do you wanted to happen ... people not complain? No inquiry? No report? Or no resignation?
Was there a problem in the report? Any lies?
It would appear that Raab has a high IQ, but that doesn't mean he's a good minister. In a team sport, a prima donna can be disruptive, left on the bench and ultimately moved out, no matter how good they are individually ...
What do you wanted to happen ... people not complain? No inquiry? No report? Or no resignation?
Was there a problem in the report? Any lies?
It would appear that Raab has a high IQ, but that doesn't mean he's a good minister. In a team sport, a prima donna can be disruptive, left on the bench and ultimately moved out, no matter how good they are individually ...
if you do not believe that people who go to top grammar schools are necessarily bright then why did you include it? why did you then go on to say "Dr Challoner’s is one of the leading grammar schools in the country. You don’t get to go there, or remain there, if you are not very bright"?
lots of dim people get into oxford or cambridge too... these places are not pure meritocracies and never have been
the tomato incident is "disputed" but it is quite clear that his behaviour as a minister has led to civil servants refusing to work for him... if he had a bit more nous and self awareness then he might have spotted this problem coming... even liz truss (reportedly a difficult minister to work for) had enough sense to avoid getting herself into that position!
lots of dim people get into oxford or cambridge too... these places are not pure meritocracies and never have been
the tomato incident is "disputed" but it is quite clear that his behaviour as a minister has led to civil servants refusing to work for him... if he had a bit more nous and self awareness then he might have spotted this problem coming... even liz truss (reportedly a difficult minister to work for) had enough sense to avoid getting herself into that position!
//Was there a problem in the report?//
Yes I think there was. The evidence (such that it was) wasn't tested. It incorporated views and opinions from people who had no direct experience of the complaints being investigated. Taken in the round, of the (many) complaints made against Mr Raab, only two were substantiated. The majority were not found.
I think people who work outside the Civil Service or other similar jobs such as those in Local Government have little or no idea of life in the real workplace. Bosses get fraught and frustrated; they often lose their tempers; they often say things that on reflection they perhaps should not have said. It's simply part of life. Life is not free of fault.
It is clear from the report that there was a widespread feeling in Mr Raab's departments that he was too robust in his style. That, in a nutshell, is the basis of the complaints. I saw no substantiation of "bullying" (at least by my definition - in the public sector the term seems to encompass practically anything that the recipient does not like to hear). Mr Tolley wasn't convinced Raab used physical gestures in a threatening way, no evidence he shouted or swore at people, and some of the complaints could not be characterised as offensive or malicious.
In public sector settings the slightest upset seems to be greeted with enquiries and reports. The private sector does not have the resources for such indulgencies because they are too busy earning a crust.
Yes I think there was. The evidence (such that it was) wasn't tested. It incorporated views and opinions from people who had no direct experience of the complaints being investigated. Taken in the round, of the (many) complaints made against Mr Raab, only two were substantiated. The majority were not found.
I think people who work outside the Civil Service or other similar jobs such as those in Local Government have little or no idea of life in the real workplace. Bosses get fraught and frustrated; they often lose their tempers; they often say things that on reflection they perhaps should not have said. It's simply part of life. Life is not free of fault.
It is clear from the report that there was a widespread feeling in Mr Raab's departments that he was too robust in his style. That, in a nutshell, is the basis of the complaints. I saw no substantiation of "bullying" (at least by my definition - in the public sector the term seems to encompass practically anything that the recipient does not like to hear). Mr Tolley wasn't convinced Raab used physical gestures in a threatening way, no evidence he shouted or swore at people, and some of the complaints could not be characterised as offensive or malicious.
In public sector settings the slightest upset seems to be greeted with enquiries and reports. The private sector does not have the resources for such indulgencies because they are too busy earning a crust.
a man of his Microsoft Word
///A meeting of Ministry of Justice officials at which Dominic Raab’s conduct was discussed was told “people had died” in the Afghanistan evacuation because of his refusal to review documents in formats which he did not like, the Guardian has been told.///
https:/ /www.th eguardi an.com/ politic s/2022/ dec/05/ afghans -died-b ecause- of-domi nic-raa b-delay -in-rev iewing- documen ts-offi cials-t old
///A meeting of Ministry of Justice officials at which Dominic Raab’s conduct was discussed was told “people had died” in the Afghanistan evacuation because of his refusal to review documents in formats which he did not like, the Guardian has been told.///
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//...why does everything always have to be compared to the private sector?//
Because the private sector, by and large, functions properly and the public sector, by and large, doesn't. One of the reasons it doesn't is because of nonsense like this. One of the prerequisites for a job in the Civil Service should be to have spent a year under "JFDI" management.
Because the private sector, by and large, functions properly and the public sector, by and large, doesn't. One of the reasons it doesn't is because of nonsense like this. One of the prerequisites for a job in the Civil Service should be to have spent a year under "JFDI" management.
Untitled - given you think Raab isn’t very bright, care to divulge your achievements compared to his so we can take a view?
It always make me wryly smile when people accuse others of not being bright (e.g, Johnson), when what they really mean is they don’t like them.
Not liking them is absolutely fair enough, but by any objective measure Raab is a very very intelligent man.
It always make me wryly smile when people accuse others of not being bright (e.g, Johnson), when what they really mean is they don’t like them.
Not liking them is absolutely fair enough, but by any objective measure Raab is a very very intelligent man.
This article describes how a high performer like Raab can actually be a divider rather than a multiplier:
https:/ /hbr.or g/2010/ 05/mana ging-yo urself- bringin g-out-t he-best -in-you r-peopl e
Surely most people have meet diminishers (prima donnas) in their own experience. Certainly I have, in my private sector experience, and seen them out of the business if they didn't change.
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Surely most people have meet diminishers (prima donnas) in their own experience. Certainly I have, in my private sector experience, and seen them out of the business if they didn't change.
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