This Girl Is Still A ‘Girl’ , Was This Teacher Right Or Wrong Here?

[Bobbisox1]

He’s lost his job and has been told he will never work in a school again

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12074909/Sacked-Christian-school-teacher-taking-legal-action-refusing-use-pupils-trans-pronouns.html

[Old_Geezer]

"we all disagree with aspects of the ways our jobs require us to behave, but if we are contracted to adhere to those aspects, and choose not to adhere to them, then the consequences are followed"

Ok, but we all have moral duties to our fellow beings, and in this case the consequences should have been the school authorities admitting they were in the wrong and stopping this blatant encouragement for the child to deny their obvious reality. It's appalling that they are allowed to get away with this damaging practice. If harming those in their care isn't already illegal, then it should be made so ASAP.

[Old_Geezer]

I can sympathise naomi.

[ichkeria]

""Broken intolerant communist Britain"

I doubt if comminists would tolerate gender transitioning.
These are complex issues and without knowing the full story it's dangerous to pronounce "right" or "wrong"
Is the teacher's name "Joshua" but a "she"?
Or was that a sort of joke?

[andres]

According to reports this girl had transitioned to a boy two years ago. The school was doing everything to encourage him in his new life. Using boys toilets, changing rooms etc.

[barry1010]

This is a different case, ich. Joshua isn't the only teacher to get the sack for his views on trans children, this one went to prison for defying a court order after he was sacked https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11659743/Christian-teacher-spent-100-days-prison-refusing-use-gender-neutral-pronouns-SACKED.html
I suspect this female teacher is the same one in Bobbi's link, with the case progressed
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/teacher-sacked-after-refusing-call-25354373

[Untitled]

in what way is this “the road to communism”? lol… the soviet bloc countries were not terribly forgiving toward trans people… you seem to have a bit of a thing about communists youngmafbog yet a very poor understanding of what communists actually think

[pastafreak]

Where was the teacher named? The DM article uses 'she'.

The article also states "that the school had helped the eight-year-old girl transition into a boy two years earlier, "....what, when this child was only SIX YEARS OLD??

[Untitled]

how often do we hear people say “i have no issue if somebody considers themselves to be a different gender” and then as soon as someone actually does it lo and behold it’s an issue

[naomi24]

Untitled, why don’t you tell us what communists actually think?

[Untitled]

because it’s not terribly relevant to the subject of the thread naomi

[ToraToraTora]

untitled, among other things fascism/communism tells people what the "correct" views on everything are. Past examples of intolerances are not relevant to the overall doctrine which is; either you conform or you are punished. QED, this and many other recent cases. Now we are not using gas chambers/Gulags etc, (yet) , but people with unproscribed views are indeed being punished.

[Untitled]

erm there is a bit more to fascism or communism than that toratoratora

[lankeela]

"The Education Secretary is working closely with the Minister for Women and Equalities" Is there a Minister for Men?

[Atheist]

I don't accept that people's religious beliefs should allow them to ignore or breach the law of the land. I'm sure that most here would not defend non-christian beliefs (e.g. fundamental Muslim or Jewish beliefs) if those beliefs were not compliant with British law.
In this case I don't know if any laws were broken.

[Old_Geezer]

The issue isn't with the confused child, someone who is at an age when no one would expect them to be making life changing decisions in any other area. It is with the school authorities encouring such a potentially damaging activity by expecting their employees to lie and be complicit.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "because it’s not terribly relevant to the subject of the thread naomi " - what? it's 100% relevant. The punishments for non compliance are not currently as those historically used but we are indeed being punished for non adherence to what the modern day communists/Fascists have determined.

[lankeela]

This is a different case to the one where a male teacher has been dismissed for 'misgendering' a pupil.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/22/joshua-sutcliffe-teacher-who-misgendered-pupil-banned/

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "erm there is a bit more to fascism or communism than that toratoratora " - of course there is I was just pointing out one aspect.

[zebo]

There was a similar story a few days ago, a male teacher had the audacity to say Well done girls sometime ago and is now unable to work because one the the 'girls' had a different pronoun that week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11246431/Swindon-teacher-sacked-refusing-use-pupils-preferred-pronouns-without-parental-permission.html

[zebo]

One of my staff a few years ago was criticised for saying Guys when addressing the mixed class, maybe she had the right idea or should we all adopt You lot, uncontroversial?