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Russians Blow Up Nova Kakhovka Dam

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ichkeria | 04:55 Tue 06th Jun 2023 | News
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in Kherson oblast

This is likely to have caused a tsunami type flood potentially killing thousands

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-russia-blows-up-major-nova-kakhovka-dam-southern-ukraine-2023-06-06/
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Calcagus - Steg
thank you Steg I really believe that no one reads my posts let alone understands them

OK yeah I do go on about crots and anacretics in Aeschylus a bit much - but - - it makes me happy
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It’s been said that propaganda isn’t meant to make you believe something, but rather to believe nothing and that is precisely the case with Russian propaganda. This is well known and it’s a problem when you have an organisation which as Peter days is anal about “neutrality”. It works well and is good for a lot of situations less good for others even if it just makes people in the know rather cross
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Yes thanks to steg for the video
"neutrality" has been forced on the BBC by ideologically-led politicians, who have been voted into power democratically by an audience many of whom want Gary Lineker publicly disembowelled. So you're stuck with them.
Perhaps their investigations want to discount any 'potential' stuff,
yes but - - - Pravda was the only paper that had the headlines set up TWO days in advance. The London dailies 'go to bed' at 10pm the night before ( in the good old days)

so if you wait and see - you lose the edge and the news.

The video ( not voice over ( 'The russians have done it!) - shows an obviously breached dam.

The flow is not above critical and so that shows ripples in the water ABOVE the dam. - Note that information ( here the flow is much freeer than previously) is transmitted AGAINST the flow.

The flow below the dam - shows vortices projecting into the flow and then joining down the main flow in a straight line. . They do not cross a boundaryThis corresponds to Kelvin's first law of Vortices - ( once a vortex always a vortex, and if no vortices it stay like it).

Has anyone seen the Beeb verification of Harry court case in the Royal Court of Justice on the strand?

Pretty fluffy, brightly dressed " Hello I was brought up in Nigeria and so nothing about English Law and procedure in London, but there seems to be an awful lot of people I can see. At least one is what you Brits call ginj""
"neutrality" has been forced on the BBC by ideologically-led politicians,

I dont agree with 'forced'

placemen and yes-men, hangers on have done as their masters bid them, in return for money and pensions

doesnt seem forced to me !

placemen are part of the forcing. The BBC didn't select Richard Sharp as chairman, he was forced on them because he'd done the politicians' bidding before he got there.

Papers can go to bed well after 10pm. When the Mirror got a big scoop they'd leave it out of the first edition altogether so the Sun wouldn't be able to steal it for the second. Bad luck for rustic readers who never got the second edition.

But I digress.
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that’s just a silly comment by jno :-)

The BBC should be unbiased of course but that should not be taken to absurd levels which I’d argue is the case with this war for the reasons stated above
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I meant the comment before the last :-)
Tongue in cheek I think
neutrality is an excellent thing. During the great strike the BBC - on Churchill's orders - refused to let the Labour Party leader on air. They recovered their reputation in WW2 by straight reporting of what they knew. That's still the case - but because of budget cuts, also politician-enforced, confirming events takes time.

The answer is still Brecht's one: sack the electorate and get a new one.
Seems reasonable - other "unverified" sources are available ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65650822
Explaining the 'how' - the launch of BBC Verify

In the early hours of Wednesday 3 May, video footage emerged showing what appeared to be two drones crashing into a dome of the Kremlin complex in Moscow. But was the video real or fake? Did this "attack" actually happen? And how could we tell?

The exponential growth of manipulated and distorted video means that seeing is no longer believing. Consumers tell us they can no longer trust that the video in their news feeds is real. Which is why we at the BBC must urgently begin to show and share the work we do behind the scenes, to check and verify information and video content before it appears on our platforms. And as AI weaponises and turbocharges the impact and consequences of disinformation, this work has never been more important.
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All I’m saying is it’s annoying to those of us who know better.
I don’t expect the BBC to wave the flag if Ukraine “all the time”
It does do so when it is not reporting news. It’s the news reporting that is the issue.

Russians are shelling people who are fleeing the floods btw
// Calcagus - Steg
thank you Steg I really believe that no one reads my posts let alone understands them //

Your posts are usually easier to understand than most.. certainly make more sense
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A Shane I can’t post the video I’ve just been watching of a guy rowing (!) down a street in Kherson city calling to people who need rescuing.
In the distance you can hear the Russian shelling.
Йобнуті …
I wonder if the Russians will be celebrating this dam busters raid for the next 80 years :-/
> All I’m saying is it’s annoying to those of us who know better.

Yes, I get it. It's one of those quandaries, like "Fast, Cheap, Good - pick two out of three".
> I wonder if the Russians will be celebrating this dam busters raid for the next 80 years :-/

I wouldn't be surprised if they dooo, do-do, do, do-do-do-dooo ...
//I wonder if the Russians will be celebrating this dam busters raid for the next 80 years :-///

Couldnt resist a dig at the British could you.

Why dont you move to a country more to your liking, China or N. Korea maybe?
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Like a smart bomb. 100% on target. This ANSWERBANK game is just too easy sometimes.
Straight to level 2 :-)
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Didn’t the dam busters work have done military objective?
I can’t remember.
The Russians think they are protecting their left flank?
It’s just another pointless war crime

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