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Prigozhin Drops A Truth Bomb …
… and the Kremlin retaliates?
https:/ /www.bb c.co.uk /news/w orld-65 996531
It’s one thing mouthing off about how awful your defence ministry is, but telling the truth about Donetsk, and slaying the myth swallowed by so many even in the west about Ukraine attacking civilians there since 2014?
And now on his Telegram channel tonight he’s claiming that his camp was hit by a missile from the direction of Russia, with “many dead”.
Pondering how to react.
Great news?
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It’s one thing mouthing off about how awful your defence ministry is, but telling the truth about Donetsk, and slaying the myth swallowed by so many even in the west about Ukraine attacking civilians there since 2014?
And now on his Telegram channel tonight he’s claiming that his camp was hit by a missile from the direction of Russia, with “many dead”.
Pondering how to react.
Great news?
Answers
Was it ever a coup or was it a special leadership operation?
17:59 Sat 24th Jun 2023
Have you seen this, Ich?
https:/ /www.ex press.c o.uk/ne ws/worl d/17840 11/luka shenko- flees-b elarus- russia- coup
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Yes I had seen that Lady, but I’d caution against reading too much into it. Originally mind you it was thought he - or at least his official plane - was flying to Moscow. As it does apparently at weekends. There is no proof he was on board as far as I know.
But it turned out it was heading to Turkey. It’s unclear whether it was headed there all along or changed its plan.
It might just be some of his people heading there on holiday
But it turned out it was heading to Turkey. It’s unclear whether it was headed there all along or changed its plan.
It might just be some of his people heading there on holiday
I'm not posting this saying it is true but if it is....
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The morale within the Russian army is at a low ebb. Despite all Putin's propaganda they know they are fighting a lost cause (if there ever was a justifiable cause) I would not be at all surprised if they turned coats & joined the Russians already against Putin & Prigo's lot & put an end to this misery.
Be afraid Vladimir, be very afraid!
Be afraid Vladimir, be very afraid!
'Where does all of this lead? Here there are three possibilities. First, Prigozhin succeeds in his coup in Moscow, leading to Putin’s ousting and / or death. The chances of this happening are slim but stranger things have happened. This would be a ‘clean coup scenario’.
The second is that Prigozhin is able to capture and hold a regional base (such as Rostov, where his troops are now). Combined with the rapidly deteriorating situation in Ukraine (where Russian forces are trying to hold the front against the advancing Ukrainian forces), this could really then deteriorate into a nasty and prolonged struggle. Let’s call it a ‘civil war scenario.’ The chances of this happening are less than even.
Third, Prigozhin is captured and/or killed. Wagner is defeated. We would then expect an announcement from the Kremlin that Prigozhin was in fact a CIA agent. The result will be a further turn towards brutal repressions in Russia. Let’s call this ‘a Kirov scenario’, named so after the mysterious murder of Sergei Kirov in 1934, which gave Stalin the pretext for attacking his perceived enemies (this led in time to the Great Purge). Chances: fair.'
Sergey Radchenko writing in The Spectator, today
The second is that Prigozhin is able to capture and hold a regional base (such as Rostov, where his troops are now). Combined with the rapidly deteriorating situation in Ukraine (where Russian forces are trying to hold the front against the advancing Ukrainian forces), this could really then deteriorate into a nasty and prolonged struggle. Let’s call it a ‘civil war scenario.’ The chances of this happening are less than even.
Third, Prigozhin is captured and/or killed. Wagner is defeated. We would then expect an announcement from the Kremlin that Prigozhin was in fact a CIA agent. The result will be a further turn towards brutal repressions in Russia. Let’s call this ‘a Kirov scenario’, named so after the mysterious murder of Sergei Kirov in 1934, which gave Stalin the pretext for attacking his perceived enemies (this led in time to the Great Purge). Chances: fair.'
Sergey Radchenko writing in The Spectator, today
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